9 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 All I hope is that he don't end up at Liverpool, he may see our policy as bad but liverpools 6 months of premiership form and we will buy you for 10s of millions is no better in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Wayne Routledge has tweeted in support of Enrique. Clear that the players aren't happy. Routledge has no reason to be bitter Although tbf a lack of ambition would actually improve his prospects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 ALERT! ALERT! PEOPLE CRITICISING CLUB OWNER! God you're tiresome Use the ignore function then, that's what it's there for. Ignoring you though would effectively half the number of posts on the forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I too think professional footballers are my friends because they tweet about things that reinforce my preexisting biases. What is this? Rent-a-mong night? Pre-existing bias? Give it a fucking rest man. How much more evidence do you need that the players don't trust the people running the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 He's quite possibly right in everything he says (who really knows) but he's an idiot for saying it in public. It doesn't help the club, and it doesn't help our potential recruitment drive if players hear that our lot are allegedly liars. I dunno which pisses me off more tbh, what he's accusing the club of, or him saying it in public like this. All that being said, I think he's a numpty if he thinks our recruitment policy so far this summer hasn't been good, and find it disrespectful to the new signings, coming from a guy who's been putting in half arsed performances for the last four or five months. Not that he cares, considering he's saying that we don't have one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Wayne Routledge has tweeted in support of Enrique. Clear that the players aren't happy. Not really, routledge is not wanted so his opinion hardly counts, barton said hours earlier he wanted to stay his contract and more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 He's quite possibly right in everything he says (who really knows) but he's an idiot for saying it in public. It doesn't help the club, and it doesn't help our potential recruitment drive if players hear that our lot are allegedly liars. I dunno which pisses me off more tbh, what he's accusing the club of, or him saying it in public like this. All that being said, I think he's a numpty if he thinks our recruitment policy so far this summer hasn't been good, and find it disrespectful to the new signings, coming from a guy who's been putting in half arsed performances for the last four or five months. thats my major problem with what he's said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I too think professional footballers are my friends because they tweet about things that reinforce my preexisting biases. What is this? Rent-a-mong night? Pre-existing bias? Give it a f***ing rest man. How much more evidence do you need that the players don't trust the people running the club? Whether they do or don't, pretending that they're white knighting for the sake of the fans is going too far. I have a healthy distrust of the motives of any professional athlete, no matter where they stand on issues, and enrique/barton/anyone rightfully (imo) getting digs in at MA/DL doesn't equate to them looking out for us. That's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Looking forward to seeing the same old people trotting out the same old chat, defending this mob when we sell Tiote next and then Coloccini next summer. I'll be the first to say that we could be in danger next year if the morale is poor among the players through lack of trust in the management and board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 ALERT! ALERT! PEOPLE CRITICISING CLUB OWNER! Criticising your employer is the problem. Nobody would/should defend our owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I just wish players would keep this s*** in house. Barton, Jose...they must think we're the only non top 6 club who sells if a big offer comes in. Bet they weren't whinging last year when they were picking up £5m between them in the Championship. I think the players do make an effort to keep things inhouse. There have been many arguments between the players and Ashley/Llambias and most stuff stays in house. Nolan always said this was important to give the club an appearance of stability. The trouble is this helps the hierarchy because it is the players who get accused of a lack of loyalty or being greedy when they decide to move on. The sale of Carroll was the breaking point because I believe he did not want to leave and the other players knew that as well. When you have players like Given, Nolan and Jose who have been very happy at the club wanting to leave because they are not happy with what's going on, then they can't all be wrong. The circumstances may differ but we only ever hear one side of the story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I too think professional footballers are my friends because they tweet about things that reinforce my preexisting biases. What is this? Rent-a-mong night? Pre-existing bias? Give it a f***ing rest man. How much more evidence do you need that the players don't trust the people running the club? Whether they do or don't, pretending that they're white knighting for the sake of the fans is going too far. I have a healthy distrust of the motives of any professional athlete, no matter where they stand on issues, and enrique/barton/anyone rightfully (imo) getting digs in at MA/DL doesn't equate to them looking out for us. That's all. I think their is a difference between 'looking out for us' and being fed up to the point of just saying whats happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I see a lot of talk right now about people defending the board, yet I don't see anyone actually defending them. It's clear something's amiss but to come out and spread this kind of shit all over twitter is the real problem here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I see a lot of talk right now about people defending the board, yet I don't see anyone actually defending them. It's clear something's amiss but to come out and spread this kind of shit all over twitter is the real problem here. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I just wish players would keep this s*** in house. Barton, Jose...they must think we're the only non top 6 club who sells if a big offer comes in. Bet they weren't whinging last year when they were picking up £5m between them in the Championship. I think the players do make an effort to keep things inhouse. There have been many arguments between the players and Ashley/Llambias and most stuff stays in house. Nolan always said this was important to give the club an appearance of stability. The trouble is this helps the hierarchy because it is the players who get accused of a lack of loyalty or being greedy when they decide to move on. The sale of Carroll was the breaking point because I believe he did not want to leave and the other players knew that as well. When you have players like Given, Nolan and Jose who have been very happy at the club wanting to leave because they are not happy with what's going on, then they can't all be wrong. The circumstances may differ but we only ever hear one side of the story. Excellent post. Far more articulate than my posts on the same subject and exactly what I was thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Theres clearly personal bias behind some of these comments as said. His mates are leaving/have left the club, but hes not in a solid position to say our new signings wont improve us. Hes not happy obviously, maybe in regards to his contract offer. The Carroll situation clearly had further implications though as many suggested at the time, along with letting go of Nolan who was likely highly liked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 He actually contradicts what Barton says if you read it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Sorry if I've missed this, but is Enrique leaving the tour as the young lads been called up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 5 players have now spoken out on this. When will people finally get it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Sorry if I've missed this, but is Enrique leaving the tour as the young lads been called up? not being mentioned, probably a replacement for simpson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Sorry if I've missed this, but is Enrique leaving the tour as the young lads been called up? Surely after these comments? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 ALERT! ALERT! PEOPLE CRITICISING CLUB OWNER! God you're tiresome Now are you sure you have spelled tiresome correctly? If not, the spelling police will call and Dave's the founder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I'm just waiting for the usual twitter msg that follows these kind of outbursts - sorry someone got my phone ignore all that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I just wish players would keep this s*** in house. Barton, Jose...they must think we're the only non top 6 club who sells if a big offer comes in. Bet they weren't whinging last year when they were picking up £5m between them in the Championship. I think the players do make an effort to keep things inhouse. There have been many arguments between the players and Ashley/Llambias and most stuff stays in house. Nolan always said this was important to give the club an appearance of stability. The trouble is this helps the hierarchy because it is the players who get accused of a lack of loyalty or being greedy when they decide to move on. The sale of Carroll was the breaking point because I believe he did not want to leave and the other players knew that as well. When you have players like Given, Nolan and Jose who have been very happy at the club wanting to leave because they are not happy with what's going on, then they can't all be wrong. The circumstances may differ but we only ever hear one side of the story. Excellent post. Far more articulate than my posts on the same subject and exactly what I was thinking. Since when did Nolan want to go because he wasn't happy? Nolan left because we wouldn't offer him the contract he wanted, a contract that we'd have been utter morons to offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 He's right, though. And deep down we all know it. Although like Barton, he's an idiot for making an outburst like this on Twitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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