Mick Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 It was absolutely hilarious when Ben Arfa had him all over and then when he had to go in goal after everything he'd said, but he was absolutely right about the club and that finish was a total fluke. Mint player as well, easily the best left back I've seen play for us and that includes Beresford, Pearce, Bernard etc. He was nigh on impassable in 1 on 1 situations against most players except oddly Sturridge when he was at Bolton. Love his recover pace and link up with Colo and Jonas as well. He was sloppy in possession at times and his positioning was sometimes a bit naive when the oppossition were breaking, but his strengths far outweighed his weaknesses. Class player, absolutely loved him. Agreed, I would probably have him back if his fitness was OK because I think his biggest problem is Rogers not liking him for some reason rather than him being finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 It was absolutely hilarious when Ben Arfa had him all over and then when he had to go in goal after everything he'd said, but he was absolutely right about the club and that finish was a total fluke. Mint player as well, easily the best left back I've seen play for us and that includes Beresford, Pearce, Bernard etc. He was nigh on impassable in 1 on 1 situations against most players except oddly Sturridge when he was at Bolton. Love his recover pace and link up with Colo and Jonas as well. He was sloppy in possession at times and his positioning was sometimes a bit naive when the oppossition were breaking, but his strengths far outweighed his weaknesses. Class player, absolutely loved him. Nowhere near as good as Beresford the fact he can't get anywhere near Liverpools side is tantamount to that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 It was absolutely hilarious when Ben Arfa had him all over and then when he had to go in goal after everything he'd said, but he was absolutely right about the club and that finish was a total fluke. Mint player as well, easily the best left back I've seen play for us and that includes Beresford, Pearce, Bernard etc. He was nigh on impassable in 1 on 1 situations against most players except oddly Sturridge when he was at Bolton. Love his recover pace and link up with Colo and Jonas as well. He was sloppy in possession at times and his positioning was sometimes a bit naive when the oppossition were breaking, but his strengths far outweighed his weaknesses. Class player, absolutely loved him. Nowhere near as good as Beresford the fact he can't get anywhere near Liverpools side is tantamount to that I would guess that I am older than 65-70 percent of this forum and Beresford stopped playing for NUFC when I was 8 (though tbf, I couldn't see matches regularly until well into last decade). For many of us, Enrique is probably the best that it gets in terms of fullbacks. He was fantastic in the Championship and maintained the same level in the Premiership. It is a shame how his career has turned out, given he is not yet even 30. I find it incredible he never even made on appearance for Spain's first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 It was absolutely hilarious when Ben Arfa had him all over and then when he had to go in goal after everything he'd said, but he was absolutely right about the club and that finish was a total fluke. Mint player as well, easily the best left back I've seen play for us and that includes Beresford, Pearce, Bernard etc. He was nigh on impassable in 1 on 1 situations against most players except oddly Sturridge when he was at Bolton. Love his recover pace and link up with Colo and Jonas as well. He was sloppy in possession at times and his positioning was sometimes a bit naive when the oppossition were breaking, but his strengths far outweighed his weaknesses. Class player, absolutely loved him. Nowhere near as good as Beresford the fact he can't get anywhere near Liverpools side is tantamount to that Not imo. A player not getting picked by someone means nothing really. Ben Arfa couldn't get in our team because of Pardew, Wilkinson turned down signing Cantona, Keegan turned down Zidane as legend has it. History is littered with good players that managers didn't like, it's usually a much better idea to just watch a player and use your own judgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 He's much better than Beresford was man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 No he wasn't, Enrique was overrated because we were a shit, middle of the road team who just got promoted and we had no expectations. Same goes for Nolan and the rest of them at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 What a load of shit. A good player is a good player, it doesn't necessarily need any overriding context to quantify it. Nolan was a shit player who was very good at scoring goals in both the CCC and the PL, no one really liked him but his goals made him bearable and he was a bit of a cult hero. Jose was simply a quality player in most things that he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 KI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 He's much better than Beresford was man. Nah. ['Beresford clearly a cut above' Video removed] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Ah wey, that's it settled then. Bottled Dog has spoken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 What a load of s***. A good player is a good player, it doesn't necessarily need any overriding context to quantify it. Nolan was a s*** player who was very good at scoring goals in both the CCC and the PL, no one really liked him but his goals made him bearable and he was a bit of a cult hero. Jose was simply a quality player in most things that he did. Hasn't exactly proved that since tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Ah wey, that's it settled then. Bottled Dog has spoken. /Oh shit, vid.... hold on..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 What a load of s***. A good player is a good player, it doesn't necessarily need any overriding context to quantify it. Nolan was a s*** player who was very good at scoring goals in both the CCC and the PL, no one really liked him but his goals made him bearable and he was a bit of a cult hero. Jose was simply a quality player in most things that he did. Hasn't exactly proved that since tbh. Again, a manager not picking a player isn't necessarily a measure of their quality. We know that more than most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Even when he was picked he didn't look particularly outstanding, going back a while ago mind. Wouldn't be the first player to look good for a shit team and then suddenly go to shit. Also Jonas made Ryan Taylor look defensively secure back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 No he wasn't, Enrique was overrated because we were a shit, middle of the road team who just got promoted and we had no expectations. Same goes for Nolan and the rest of them at the time. I agree about the likes of Nolan but Enrique was quality. Good going forward and solid as a rock in 1-on-1 defending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Beresford and Robbie Elliott were better than Enrique in my John Humble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Enrique was definitely a quality player for us, regardless of how we were at that point in time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 No way was Robbie Elliott better than Enrique, either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 He's much better than Beresford was man. I saw them both play and Enrique was far superior to Beresford IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Beresford and Robbie Elliott were better than Enrique in my John Humble. Beresford's understandable like, but howeh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Don't have a problem with that really, why should he go and get paid less somewhere else? To actually play football I would suggest. I always liked him for us, was a decent player in a team of mediocrity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Enrique was better than both of them. There was a point where I used to actually enjoy a winger or full back try and run at him, because Enrique used to come out on top of any race or physical battle 9/10 times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Loved both Beresford and Enrique. Both worked well with their wingers creating proper partnerships. Despite the success of the different eras I'd have Jose coming out on top. Elliott was a clear level or two below them both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymac1966 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 And what's wrong with Frank Clark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Enrique was probably the best player at the club, along with Colo, for the two seasons prior to him leaving. Brilliant player, would absolutely have him back even after apparently losing his shit at Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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