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so they offering 12 we want 20 doesnt sound that close.

I think Craig no Hope was basically saying in one of his youtube videos its likely to happen but the MLS season doesnt kick off until March/April? so no rush to get Almiron over to them to have a 2 month lay off. I guess as usual Howe isn't saying yes or no when asked even directly just miggy is a good pro who is aware of the interest so your guess is as good as mine if its a certainty we selling him or not.

I think thats the mini debate I am having in my head if by next season Botman is back and preferred choice and BDB is still a perfectly reasonable backup then Kelly will sit getting very little game time outside of another big injury however if this is BDB peak and his form drops off a cliff then 12m for Kelly may not seem like good business if it would cost more than that to bring in his replacement. Obviously its hard as we need depth but the wages sitting there for the number of minutes Kelly is getting doesnt make sense right now based on the form of others keeping him out of the side.

As usual its the devilish what ifs isn't it here that's hard to forecast. If this is BDB's swan song good season and he gets say an extra year or 2 contract and rapidly declines and if we get into Europe next season having a player to step in would be great we may miss a free like Kelly as go out and get someone is going to be 15/20/25 maybe even 30m so doesnt really help us as the fee may just about cover a replacement. Alternatively BDB continues to be a mainstay in the side or preferred backup eventually and Kelly in 2 years is 28 and no longer the young cheap centre back waiting to step in. However right now we need the money clearly and need players in other positions the rumoured wages of the likes of Kelly and Targett are impacting our ability to offer the bumper pay rise to the likes to Isak. If its only 12m and its loan with a obligation to buy its not really helping us in the short term but the club keep saying its the long term gain so maybe its worth it.

not sure its 30m offer just that article states his value is approx 30m euro's like you say if we can get 15/20m to go back into the squad and get his wages off the books sounds too good to be true. the romano post is 15m euro so around 12.5m if its structured with a loan to buy that might not help buy anyone this window though.

Not making excuses for him but he's still got that shoulder strapping, played probably too many minutes and then we use him as our Swiss army knife of versatility. He's been central, more advanced central, left wing, right wing and extra man in defence. He's probably the weak link of the three because the other two are just so good. Even yesterday trying to hold the ball up with 3 players on him is a skill we would miss in certain games his shooting is atrocious at times that's two games in a row it's fallen to him to hit the sky but he does offer us alot. As he gets older and continues to pick up bookings we have to get used to rotating him out for certain games the squad development and depth just isn't there yet despite the number of midfielders on our books no one does what big joe does.

I think Kaka just covered this in his reply but not making a decision and keeping it until the summer is still a decision and he along with Howe and the club will have to live with the consequences. As a fan i can only call it like I see it 3 windows of none first 11 ready players, an aging squad, obvious areas of weakness and needed improvement in the squad and alot of players getting close to out of contract. Alot of work to do and right now while the league is the way it is we have a good chance to be in the mix the lack of signings may be the difference from 4th or 8th based on the current pack.

Agreed you shouldn't judge someone by information you dont have and assumption. However that private press session he had after the summer mess he spoke of not being fit for purpose etc etc right now I have no idea if keeping our powder dry until the summer is a good or bad thing and the "gamble" will either pay off in terms of keeping the lads together and riding a momentum wave to European football and maybe champions league. However games like today remind you have fragile things can be no one on the bench really to change the game "tired players" and players who have under performed which could have been down to believing their own hype or not having someone there to push them out of the starting line up. Some of these issues are out of Mitchell's control he doesn't select the players and doesn't do the team sheet but it must be fairly obvious we have a small squad and an even smaller squad again of real quality players. Mitchell is here to make the tough calls I guess it depends if him sitting on his hands and sticking with the team and not adding to it is classed as a decision or not.

Only talking about this topic specifically but think when you lose you look to see why and then what can be done about it Mitchell is definitely in a position within the club to do something. I have no issue losing to the better team especially if its not controversial like a penalty or a VAR call that cost you. However when you see the same starting 11 alot of fixture congestion and look to see answers you hope that a signing or two will change things up/lift the mood/ offer competition for any complacency/ improve your chances that heavy defeats wont happen again etc etc. The fact Mitchell has come in and so far not been able to offer anything tangible as far as the fans are aware of and the backdrop of looking to sell and seemingly not buy you can come in here with an air of frustration. Obviously appreciate its the fickle nature of us all that this topic would come off the first page of the forum while we are winning until the end of Jan transfer window or the summer if we continued in our good form.

Least we can be active this window to refresh the side 😭

They have done well to stay in contention of European places though despite not hitting the heights of last season. As the table stands it's still relatively tight in terms of the current top 8. Makes Saturdays game even more important not to lose win and we stretch 7 points clear of Bournemouth

Has chant is so easy that seems to always be extra loud on the tele must be worth a bonus point for him helping the team 😁

Shows his sudden growth in confidence switching it out to Tino rather than the straight fast ball to hall. Was excellent again tonight long may it continue.

Unlucky not to draw a few fouls as appeared to be held a few times, chased and harried which for tired opposition being a nuisance is sometimes all you need to see out games. Hopefully trusted with more minutes this half half of the season as Isak needs protecting

Such a good attacking side things just didn't go their way on another day the fixture could have been closer. Their fixtures coming up sound brutal though.

Would have been happy with the 5m from the last rumour TBF every extra penny opens up a different option replacement wise in terms of budget as long as we aren't greedy.

What an engine on him still busting a gut so late in the game. Offers so much protection to the back while dovetailing with Bruno going forward. Such a classy player.

Great ball for Isak but sloppy with some of his passing thought he was better in the second half.

I am just not impressed he's sloppy and easy to brush off the ball. With his pace he should be stretching teams but all I see is non existent performances. Hope it's rust or niggles but he's running out of time to impress.

While you want to laugh at the top 6 cartel people everyone dropping points around you is good news for us

Depends on how willock is feeling maybe big joe wing and miley comes in the middle in games later. If isak needs to come off and so does gordan it's a bigger reshuffle if osula can't be put in.

The deciding factor was the fee for me having 5 keepers is nuts but that aside if we got what Ben Jacobs was spinning about a 6 to 8m fee then no brainer rock the boat and take the money even if it unsettles the back 5. No fee as its likely to be now saves a rumored 40k a week not a psr dent creation at all and not enough to buy anyone with wiggle room wise. However if in a position of strength dubs gets a contract extension off the back of a run he was part of not the only factor in then the club have been foolish to me. Certainly not black and white but being more ruthless is a skill the club needs to learn.

Give Willock any more rest and the job centre will be in touch to see if he needs to sign on

Only "x" rumour I've seen is anderlect on loan assuming real he's got 2 years left i think and we would probably have to subsidise his wages. Basically one of the biggest flops of the new ownership.

I know it's not the clubs wishes if you believe the crap from the summer that they want to invest the max limit of spending on the squad. Also the window isn't over for 3 weeks or so and something could happen. However standing still is torture as a fan ambitious clubs who can sell and buy get stronger. While we hope to hold on to who we have as the players get older and some will drop off from already raised levels as time goes on as a consequence of age or injury. I know it sounds ungrateful and entitled seen as I do like who we are as a side and results don't lie we play some excellent football just feel like one day we will hit a slump we can't play out of. Those hoping for a transformative summer due to keeping our hands in our pockets with signings so far for 2/3 windows. I am not sure with the number of frees we have we will see the signings we need as we will once again need squad fillers and first 11 immediate quality.