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I keep hearing this, same for west ham, but allardyce f***ing hates us and is 10 times the manager carver is, and Pulis is also 10 times the manager carver is. Both teams are clearly better than us if only by virtue of the quality of their respective managers, I just can't see where people think we're going to beat them from Tend to agree - with scarce little individual brilliance to bail the side out it's difficult to see Carver avoiding the 11 game losing streak. Maybe if Sissoko and Janmaat are both on form one game we can nick a 1-0 or a 2-1 somewhere against a similarly uninspired side. I'd say we might manage a point with a late equaliser or getting a goal then hanging on for them to equalise late but that'll be the extent of it I imagine, we're certainly not going to beat anyone. Ah the old, nick a goal and hang on for dear lives, worked wonders against Swansea! Cisse literally feels like the only person that could save Carver from 11 in a row. We can't score and we can't defend, we have to hope Cisse gets something from nothing like he did so many times for Pardew.

Another glorious piece, landing a further blow to the bruised head of Sports Direct United.

You can look at a team sheet and say, yes they're the 10th best team in the league. But what they fail to grasp looking at us from 300 miles away, having only watch highlights all season (lowlights ammirite?) Is that we don't even try and if we are sat 10th by Christmas it's down tools, job done. "Look at the Geordies revolting again because they're not winning the league." It's so misinformed, prejudiced and cliché and these are the people other sports fans listen to. It's great that some of the broadsheets have come out swinging at Ashley and have finally seen what we've been upset about for neigh on 7 years but it's still not enough. I see it all the time from other teams supporters, who all have an opinion on us. Makes my blood boil. No we're not a top 8 team, but we have the means and potential to be, just not the desire.

Not watching, was it Adam Armstrong? HBA and it's all his fault

Lewandowski with an outstanding goal there.

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I've just seen one of our "fans" on another website commenting that we shouldn't be protesting outside SD shops because the poor 0 hour contract staff will get fired for not hitting their targets!

What's he said? Really like him on the guardian podcast.. He was just trying to play devils advocate really, most the comments he said were completely tongue in cheek. Evans completely gets what is going on though, really impressed by the way he spoke. The other journo, Sean Ingle, made a few points but he seemed to be of the opinion that we just needed to stop buying replica shirts and that 10th is 'about where we should be aiming for' We should be aiming for as high as we can get, if we finish 10th trying then everyone's happy. You don't aspire to 10th though, can they not see that?

Don't you know how it works? If we play midweek we're tired, if the other team do they've had more practice, it's a lose, lose situation.

A one legged, blind donkey is better than Williamson, hardly a yardstick for Premiership quality.

Deliberately antagonising fans? Like C4 went out of their way to make a program about SDs dodgy trading practices just to mislead NUFC supporters about their club? They can't wait for this season to end.

Bit late to the party but @ the thread title.

This is great stuff, they're against the ropes here and we've got to keep swinging!

This, every time, we've had a pretty extensive list of crocks in our time but you get the feeling our "physio team" exsasserbate rather than cure.

No, that's not true, it is for some but the best bosses I've worked for weren't like that at all. Tbf most of the upper management I've had issue with have been in retail, never had those problems in I.T. so it's probably just retail!

That's true to a degree but there's plenty of people who have made fortunes but still treated their staff with dignity and respect. You're right, I've had some decent upper management before, but they are the exception rather than the rule. I'm working with some good ones at the moment but it's only the 2nd time that's happened in 20 years of work.

Trouble is you don't get up the ladder without being a cunt and the higher you are, the cuntier you are. Ashley's at the very top of a successful business, work out what that means for yourself. I know I'll never be more than a manager because that's my level of cuntishness.

"When you cease to dream, you cease to live." So it was always his intention to kill us off then?

I agree, we would be safe if he'd have still been here but I may have had a rage/stress induced coronary by now and the "football" would still be hurting my eyes. He's world class nob, that is all.

This is it for me, every man and his dog has an opinion on Newcastle, however I've never looked that way at another team. We're made out to be a circus by the Southern based press and everyone thinks they have a right to an opinion and anything and everything that is written about us (usually tired clichés) is the God's honest truth. I have done quite well with my circle of non-NUFC friends in explaining the situation to them, have changed their perception of the situation. Tbf the most difficult friend I've had to try to get through to is a fellow supporter.

Clever.

I totally agree, I just mean that a couple of better players could lead to an extra 5 points or so, safety assured a bit early and job done. Even with Carver. Carver's leaving out proper central midfielders to play full backs and wingers instead. There's not much you can do with someone that clueless in charge. It does make me wonder whether Carver infected Pardew or if it was the other way around. Similar stupid team selections, similar shitty excuses, same lack of understanding between the players. We can't be so unlucky to have employed 2 people with almost identical ideas on the game. One of these c***s has pushed the same crap for so long now that everyone around them apparently believes it. Either way, the whole coaching staff needs to be replaced. Carver doesn't own a brain of his own, he knows no different to what he's been doing with Pardew for the past 4 years. Pardew has done the same thing at every club he's been at and it's about to start again at Palace. In conclusion, they're both shit only Carver is a bit more shit and a bit less snake so will never get away with it like Pardew did.

I genuinely thought it was sarcasm and maybe I'd let myself get caught up in the smugness of it. They definitely need it rubbing in their faces though after reading a thread on there dedicated to "deluded Geordies" they should have called it the NUFC Cliché thread as it's massively uninformed and cliché driven nonsense.

I totally agree, I just mean that a couple of better players could lead to an extra 5 points or so, safety assured a bit early and job done. Even with Carver. I'm not convinced Carver could lead one of the top 4 to safety tbh.

Top-drawer humour that, I'm in. Yeah I realise it's pretty lame, but it's great to see him revert to type and after all the "unrealistic expectations" "best anyone could do" bollocks it's even more sweet. But I appreciate the inferred "you're a cunt" Ian