Mole_Toonfan Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 With Colback he is, but still it was 20 mins we probably could have got away with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 When Pardew made that similar comment it was totally blaming the fans, something like 'The fans got louder so the players got carried away and went looking for a winner. That can happen'. The way that cunt just acts like all things are predetermined and abolves himself of any personal responsibility. Fucking criminal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Sissoko is awful in a 2 man midfield tbf. Will you just fuck off man? I know he is, but would he have been worse than Tiote? I doubt it. I'm saying there were options to refresh the team and positively change the have in our favour, and he took the wrong ones, it's as simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 We definitely weren't overly cautious like, we were just out on our feet and couldn't get a hold of the ball for very long. he still had options on the bench to add something to the deteriorating situation it was going wrong before anita got injured but he could have done plenty of other things with his subs anita off wijnaldum deeper, perez on, obertan off, aarons on, cisse off mitro on there's plenty of other things he could have done tbh, if wijnaldum was in tatters then drop sissoko back with colback and shuffle the pack to get some pace, youth and technique in there de jong on was a horrible f***ing substitution to make tbh he needs minutes in this league though, how else is he going to get them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 We definitely weren't overly cautious like, we were just out on our feet and couldn't get a hold of the ball for very long. he still had options on the bench to add something to the deteriorating situation it was going wrong before anita got injured but he could have done plenty of other things with his subs anita off wijnaldum deeper, perez on, obertan off, aarons on, cisse off mitro on there's plenty of other things he could have done tbh, if wijnaldum was in tatters then drop sissoko back with colback and shuffle the pack to get some pace, youth and technique in there de jong on was a horrible f***ing substitution to make tbh he needs minutes in this league though, how else is he going to get them? There'll be plenty more chances to give him games. We were dead on our feet and desperately needed an infusion of pace, not a player who immediately looked more wrecked than the guy he replaced. It was an awful sub, no two ways about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 We definitely weren't overly cautious like, we were just out on our feet and couldn't get a hold of the ball for very long. he still had options on the bench to add something to the deteriorating situation it was going wrong before anita got injured but he could have done plenty of other things with his subs anita off wijnaldum deeper, perez on, obertan off, aarons on, cisse off mitro on there's plenty of other things he could have done tbh, if wijnaldum was in tatters then drop sissoko back with colback and shuffle the pack to get some pace, youth and technique in there de jong on was a horrible f***ing substitution to make tbh he needs minutes in this league though, how else is he going to get them? There'll be plenty more chances to give him games. We were dead on our feet and desperately needed an infusion of pace, not a player who immediately looked more wrecked than the guy he replaced. It was an awful sub, no two ways about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 We definitely weren't overly cautious like, we were just out on our feet and couldn't get a hold of the ball for very long. he still had options on the bench to add something to the deteriorating situation it was going wrong before anita got injured but he could have done plenty of other things with his subs anita off wijnaldum deeper, perez on, obertan off, aarons on, cisse off mitro on there's plenty of other things he could have done tbh, if wijnaldum was in tatters then drop sissoko back with colback and shuffle the pack to get some pace, youth and technique in there de jong on was a horrible f***ing substitution to make tbh he needs minutes in this league though, how else is he going to get them? There'll be plenty more chances to give him games. We were dead on our feet and desperately needed an infusion of pace, not a player who immediately looked more wrecked than the guy he replaced. It was an awful sub, no two ways about it. theres nowt to say he hadnt watched 15 mins of tiote and thought he needed to give de jong minutes as he'd have to reshuffle the pack next week (to not include tiote) if anita injury was bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 We definitely weren't overly cautious like, we were just out on our feet and couldn't get a hold of the ball for very long. he still had options on the bench to add something to the deteriorating situation it was going wrong before anita got injured but he could have done plenty of other things with his subs anita off wijnaldum deeper, perez on, obertan off, aarons on, cisse off mitro on there's plenty of other things he could have done tbh, if wijnaldum was in tatters then drop sissoko back with colback and shuffle the pack to get some pace, youth and technique in there de jong on was a horrible f***ing substitution to make tbh he needs minutes in this league though, how else is he going to get them? There'll be plenty more chances to give him games. We were dead on our feet and desperately needed an infusion of pace, not a player who immediately looked more wrecked than the guy he replaced. It was an awful sub, no two ways about it. which way would you have gone? (genuinely interested to know opinions btw, not looking for a scrap). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 We definitely weren't overly cautious like, we were just out on our feet and couldn't get a hold of the ball for very long. he still had options on the bench to add something to the deteriorating situation it was going wrong before anita got injured but he could have done plenty of other things with his subs anita off wijnaldum deeper, perez on, obertan off, aarons on, cisse off mitro on there's plenty of other things he could have done tbh, if wijnaldum was in tatters then drop sissoko back with colback and shuffle the pack to get some pace, youth and technique in there de jong on was a horrible f***ing substitution to make tbh he needs minutes in this league though, how else is he going to get them? There'll be plenty more chances to give him games. We were dead on our feet and desperately needed an infusion of pace, not a player who immediately looked more wrecked than the guy he replaced. It was an awful sub, no two ways about it. which way would you have gone? (genuinely interested to know opinions btw, not looking for a scrap). We had a lead to protect and build on, and evidently fell back defending. We needed pace - pace to attack and to relieve pressure. Aarons and/or Aoyze was the obvious subs. Siem became nothing but a passenger. Even if he does need time on the pitch - this wasn't the game for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 We definitely weren't overly cautious like, we were just out on our feet and couldn't get a hold of the ball for very long. he still had options on the bench to add something to the deteriorating situation it was going wrong before anita got injured but he could have done plenty of other things with his subs anita off wijnaldum deeper, perez on, obertan off, aarons on, cisse off mitro on there's plenty of other things he could have done tbh, if wijnaldum was in tatters then drop sissoko back with colback and shuffle the pack to get some pace, youth and technique in there de jong on was a horrible f***ing substitution to make tbh he needs minutes in this league though, how else is he going to get them? There'll be plenty more chances to give him games. We were dead on our feet and desperately needed an infusion of pace, not a player who immediately looked more wrecked than the guy he replaced. It was an awful sub, no two ways about it. which way would you have gone? (genuinely interested to know opinions btw, not looking for a scrap). We had a lead to protect and build on, and evidently fell back defending. We needed pace - pace to attack and to relieve pressure. Aarons and/or Aoyze was the obvious subs. Siem became nothing but a passenger. Even if he does need time on the pitch - this wasn't the game for it. it was 2-2 when he came on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 We definitely weren't overly cautious like, we were just out on our feet and couldn't get a hold of the ball for very long. he still had options on the bench to add something to the deteriorating situation it was going wrong before anita got injured but he could have done plenty of other things with his subs anita off wijnaldum deeper, perez on, obertan off, aarons on, cisse off mitro on there's plenty of other things he could have done tbh, if wijnaldum was in tatters then drop sissoko back with colback and shuffle the pack to get some pace, youth and technique in there de jong on was a horrible f***ing substitution to make tbh he needs minutes in this league though, how else is he going to get them? There'll be plenty more chances to give him games. We were dead on our feet and desperately needed an infusion of pace, not a player who immediately looked more wrecked than the guy he replaced. It was an awful sub, no two ways about it. which way would you have gone? (genuinely interested to know opinions btw, not looking for a scrap). We had a lead to protect and build on, and evidently fell back defending. We needed pace - pace to attack and to relieve pressure. Aarons and/or Aoyze was the obvious subs. Siem became nothing but a passenger. Even if he does need time on the pitch - this wasn't the game for it. it was 2-2 when he came on. We needed the subs before that. The point doesn't change though. The completely wrong guy to turn to. He got nothing out of it, and more importantly our team continued to struggle for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 We definitely weren't overly cautious like, we were just out on our feet and couldn't get a hold of the ball for very long. he still had options on the bench to add something to the deteriorating situation it was going wrong before anita got injured but he could have done plenty of other things with his subs anita off wijnaldum deeper, perez on, obertan off, aarons on, cisse off mitro on there's plenty of other things he could have done tbh, if wijnaldum was in tatters then drop sissoko back with colback and shuffle the pack to get some pace, youth and technique in there de jong on was a horrible f***ing substitution to make tbh he needs minutes in this league though, how else is he going to get them? There'll be plenty more chances to give him games. We were dead on our feet and desperately needed an infusion of pace, not a player who immediately looked more wrecked than the guy he replaced. It was an awful sub, no two ways about it. which way would you have gone? (genuinely interested to know opinions btw, not looking for a scrap). We had a lead to protect and build on, and evidently fell back defending. We needed pace - pace to attack and to relieve pressure. Aarons and/or Aoyze was the obvious subs. Siem became nothing but a passenger. Even if he does need time on the pitch - this wasn't the game for it. it was 2-2 when he came on. We needed the subs before that. The point doesn't change though. The completely wrong guy to turn to. He got nothing out of it, and more importantly our team continued to struggle for it. I agree with that 100%, i was shouting for them at around 70 min mark, could have been earlier still. Still think he needs minutes, and, until he gets them, there'll always be better options, but we'll agree to disagree on that point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I must admit I do like how he watches the first half from the stands. The notion that a manager needs to be on the touchline for 90 minutes geeing and gurning the side on is very outdate; there's 52,000 fans who can do that (in theory anyway). If he and Cathro are able to analyse and build on performances by uisng that vantage point then that's great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Simpson is supposed to be the 'bibs and cones' man anyway isn't he? Probably doing him a bit of a disservice but still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I think we should suspend him on a wire across the middle of the pitch, any FM players know that is the best position to watch a game from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 People are upset he watches the game from the stands? Why? His right hand man is on the ground, and seemed very involved, so they have two perspectives. I actually loved where he was sitting. I would do the same! Everytime Obertan messed up, I hope he swore loudly enough for Mike to hear! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I really cannot give a single f*** where he chooses to watch the game from. Aye Big Sam did that a lot. His conclusion was always "more hoof to Micky O & Oba" so it means nowt. re Sissoko in cm: Hindsight is 20/20. It turns out anyone would've done a better job than Tiote. But i can't fault that sub too much. It's the NDJ sub that seemed as if he thought "we need a goal. Who is the best finisher on the bench. NDJ? You're up." With no thought as to how we would get up the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 In theory that view should allow him to see what we are doing wrong from a tactical point of view better than it would in the dugout. Probably why Cathro is with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 If it was NDJ instead of Mitrovic, poor fellow would have his leg snapped into half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I really cannot give a single f*** where he chooses to watch the game from. Aye Big Sam did that a lot. His conclusion was always "more hoof to Micky O & Oba" so it means nowt. re Sissoko in cm: Hindsight is 20/20. It turns out anyone would've done a better job than Tiote. But i can't fault that sub too much. It's the NDJ sub that seemed as if he thought "we need a goal. Who is the best finisher on the bench. NDJ? You're up." With no thought as to how we would get up the pitch. He might well have thought that de Jong's a calm player in possession, moves into space well and would help to retain the ball more by using his brain rather than his brawn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I really cannot give a single f*** where he chooses to watch the game from. Aye Big Sam did that a lot. His conclusion was always "more hoof to Micky O & Oba" so it means nowt. re Sissoko in cm: Hindsight is 20/20. It turns out anyone would've done a better job than Tiote. But i can't fault that sub too much. It's the NDJ sub that seemed as if he thought "we need a goal. Who is the best finisher on the bench. NDJ? You're up." With no thought as to how we would get up the pitch. He might well have thought that de Jong's a calm player in possession, moves into space well and would help to retain the ball more by using his brain rather than his brawn. Fair enough. But it didn't pan out like that at all. I thought he brought him on to help bag the winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I really cannot give a single f*** where he chooses to watch the game from. Aye Big Sam did that a lot. His conclusion was always "more hoof to Micky O & Oba" so it means nowt. re Sissoko in cm: Hindsight is 20/20. It turns out anyone would've done a better job than Tiote. But i can't fault that sub too much. It's the NDJ sub that seemed as if he thought "we need a goal. Who is the best finisher on the bench. NDJ? You're up." With no thought as to how we would get up the pitch. He might well have thought that de Jong's a calm player in possession, moves into space well and would help to retain the ball more by using his brain rather than his brawn. Fair enough. But it didn't pan out like that at all. I thought he brought him on to help bag the winner. Nah, it wasn't a great sub. Our shape was too stretched for it to work as there weren't really enough link options. I just think there was logic to it, but it just failed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 We definitely weren't overly cautious like, we were just out on our feet and couldn't get a hold of the ball for very long. he still had options on the bench to add something to the deteriorating situation it was going wrong before anita got injured but he could have done plenty of other things with his subs anita off wijnaldum deeper, perez on, obertan off, aarons on, cisse off mitro on there's plenty of other things he could have done tbh, if wijnaldum was in tatters then drop sissoko back with colback and shuffle the pack to get some pace, youth and technique in there de jong on was a horrible f***ing substitution to make tbh he needs minutes in this league though, how else is he going to get them? There'll be plenty more chances to give him games. We were dead on our feet and desperately needed an infusion of pace, not a player who immediately looked more wrecked than the guy he replaced. It was an awful sub, no two ways about it. To be fair, when it was 2-1 and we were starting to give up the ball I thought it was the right time to bring on Tiote. I'm not even sure if he was that bad, by the time he came on the whole midfield had run out of gas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Genuinely would love to hear the "con" to a manager working from the stands. And why it irks so much versus being on the touchline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Genuinely would love to hear the "con" to a manager working from the stands. And why it irks so much versus being on the touchline. Reminds them of this fat twat I bet: http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/80928000/jpg/_80928068_allardyce_bolton.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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