Cunning_Linguist Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I agree with the sentiment, but you don't remember Pardew ever discussing things with Carver or Stone during the game? Really? Tbf Cathro actually looks like he knows something about football Aye. Evidently, if there's someone that knows less about football than Pardew, it's John Carver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I agree with the sentiment, but you don't remember Pardew ever discussing things with Carver or Stone during the game? Really? Tbf Cathro actually looks like he knows something about football Aye. Evidently, if there's someone that knows less about football than Pardew, it's John Carver. Steve " you are at your most vulnerable when you have the ball " Stone would give him a run for his money tbf. The whole thing was a fucking farce, thank fuck it's all over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 McClaren teams never struck me as particularly impressive on the eye. But the football, given one game - is better than I expected. I was initially not too enthused by the appointment of McClaren, although I still knew it would be light years ahead of Pardew. What actually changed my mind somewhat was reading the Derby forums with most of their fans praising the football played during his time there. It made me think that his time in Europe might have given him some new insights and with him bringing in a right hand man who has also worked abroad it is good reason to think we should look forward to moving on from Pardew's prehistoric ideas about the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yeah, the Europe experience is key, and the hiring of Cathro was great. I think most people were far more encouraged when that happened, and rightly so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I'm still amazed we put together such a good coaching team TBH. Can only assume it was one of McClaren's conditions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Miles Starforth @milesstarforth 3m3 minutes ago Steve McClaren says Newcastle 'searching' for more signings, but adds he's 'happy with what we've have' at the club. #nufc 0 retweets 0 favorites Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Big praise for Obertan from McClaren. He's a terrific talent. He's so quick and so strong". #NUFC 0 retweets 0 favorites You are talking shit Schteve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 He's not actually wrong, thing is he's mentally a child and shows absolutely no bravery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 He's not actually wrong, thing is he's mentally a child and shows absolutely no bravery. Really? "Terrific talent"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 We need to let the man have his fun with Obertan. He won't play him if he starts stinking up, so it's just a matter of letting it play out. As things stand the guy contributed to a good result for us, so we have to let it ride out. Obertan has no confidence or self belief. McClaren has the personality to get the best out of these types, so it will be interesting to see what happens with him being given a chance. Ultimately though, I'm looking forward to Cabella and Aarons getting a run in that position, and being afforded the same encouragement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 maybe he meant to say 'horrific'.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 maybe he meant to say 'horrific'.. "He's a horrific talent and a crock of shite" would be closer to the mark. We must be hard up if he is praising Obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 He's not actually wrong, thing is he's mentally a child and shows absolutely no bravery. Really? "Terrific talent"? Technically he is talented, he just has no brain or bravery to actually put it to use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 As long as Gouffran is nowhere near the team I'm not bothered about Obertan. He'll be found out as soon as he puts a shit performance in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Seeing Anita and Obertan in the first game, I'm actually looking forward to seeing how some of our other guys look after having worked with the new team for a good while now. Rviere, Cabella and Marveaux in particular. The only guy I have completely written off, and want to see no part of is Mike Williamson. Argh! And maybe Gouffran too, unless he is used upfront. On the wing, no more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I'm certain Obertan is one of those that can look great in training. Big, strong and quick. Decent first touch. Just look at his cross for the goal, that's excellent delivery. No pressure on the training ground i'm sure the tricks come out. I can see how a manager could think he offers more than Gouffran or Jonas. But Aarons? No way. Probably an intelligent lad too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 If Obertan is still starting games for us in December I'll be amazed. McClaren just hasn't seen enough of him yet to realise it's not his speed or talent that will let him down, it's his absolute lack of heart and courage to make use of them in a pressure situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I'm also utterly convinced Shola Ameobi is an ace fella. February 4th, snowing. Shola pulls up to training bang on time with a smile and without being annoying in the slightest. As soon as the coaching staff see him, he brightens up their day. And the general moral of the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I'm also utterly convinced Shola Ameobi is an ace fella. February 4th, snowing. Shola pulls up to training bang on time with a smile and without being annoying in the slightest. As soon as the coaching staff see him, he brightens up their day. And the general moral of the squad. Say what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I'm also utterly convinced Shola Ameobi is an ace fella. February 4th, snowing. Shola pulls up to training bang on time with a smile and without being annoying in the slightest. As soon as the coaching staff see him, he brightens up their day. And the general moral of the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 He's not actually wrong, thing is he's mentally a child and shows absolutely no bravery. Really? "Terrific talent"? Technically he is talented, he just has no brain or bravery to actually put it to use. Technically he is not talented at all. He can run fast and this is it. He has a pidgeon chest which may mean he has a bit of strength, but his lack of heart prevents him from using it in a game. I bet he looks f***ing great against the cones in training, the bloke is a f***ing torrid excuse for a footballer and would be lucky to be playing for a League 1 side, let alone Newcastle United. f*** him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Bold prediction: We will sell Obertan for £20 million next summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Bold prediction: We will sell Obertan for £20 next summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 He's not actually wrong, thing is he's mentally a child and shows absolutely no bravery. Really? "Terrific talent"? Technically he is talented, he just has no brain or bravery to actually put it to use. Technically he is not talented at all. He can run fast and this is it. He has a pidgeon chest which may mean he has a bit of strength, but his lack of heart prevents him from using it in a game. I bet he looks f***ing great against the cones in training, the bloke is a f***ing torrid excuse for a footballer and would be lucky to be playing for a League 1 side, let alone Newcastle United. f*** him. Eh? that's all i said, he has certain things going for him but doesn't have the heart or brain to use them properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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