Mr Logic Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Steve Black's will have his work cut out lifting them if this continues. Pardew McClaren needs to pick a better team and put Colback on ice for a game or 36. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I can see him only getting one point from the first 5 games...would that be the worst start to any premiership newcastle manager or we actually had worse? Suppose carver would have been close to that, but my memory has wiped out the end of 2015 season to protect from self harm. Not sure if people were expecting anything more than what we've seen so far. He's a better character than the previous two we had last season, and carries a bit more experience than Pardew, but essentially the glass ceiling is around the same and the only thing that will give him a chance at this is what we do in the boardroom and what players we can get in and out the club. If it's sell to buy then cisse, Tiote and sissoko need selling ASAP and all proceeds spent on two defensive players. We could have a good season by recent standards if that happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Today was poor but I'll judge him after a dozen or so games. The team selection next week in reaction to this will tell us a lot about him like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I can see him only getting one point from the first 5 games...would that be the worst start to any premiership newcastle manager or we actually had worse? Suppose carver would have been close to that, but my memory has wiped out the end of 2015 season to protect from self harm. Not sure if people were expecting anything more than what we've seen so far. He's a better character than the previous two we had last season, and carries a bit more experience than Pardew, but essentially the glass ceiling is around the same and the only thing that will give him a chance at this is what we do in the boardroom and what players we can get in and out the club. If it's sell to buy then cisse, Tiote and sissoko need selling ASAP and all proceeds spent on two defensive players. We could have a good season by recent standards if that happened. The pressure would be on big time then. Nothing would happen though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Selling our best player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Sell Sissoko ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 He's injured anyway so won't have many suitors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Selling our best player It's even more ridiculous than those wanting us to sell Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Really wish we had tried to get Tuchel in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Really wish we had tried to get Tuchel in. Support the team not the regime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 That tuft on the front of his head is getting more and more isolated from the rest of his hair with every goal we concede. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Needs his fucking head examined for that second half, no strikers? Lets just surrender shall we? fucking hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Far to early to judge properly but starting the likes of Obertan is concerning and the squad is nowhere near up to his aim of the top 8. Im intrigued to see how things pan out but I'm not very optimistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Didn't McClaren lose his first 4 games as Boro manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I don't think there was anything offensive about his judgement today. For a start, he was always gonna go with the same team after a decent performance last week. As for the other contentious points; A - like f*** is he gonna sub his only RB off. B - he went for damage limitation, which appears worrying on the surface given the relentless negativity we've suffered in recent times, but taking this as an individual case, it wasn't a horrific decision. The game is almost certainly gone, so keep it tight and don't concede any more - maybe we'll nick one on the break. I'm hoping that, at the moment, he's going with functional lineups to engage the lads in a bit of continuity and organisation, before blending our flair players into an established system a few weeks in. Just got to move on after today. We weren't getting a point out of that the moment Janmaat had his moment of idiocy. Why the hell is he starting with Obertan? there's just no excuse for it, especially when we've got AArons there and we've already seen the quality he's got, he attacks the ball, runs at defenders and isn't frightened of having a shot. This Obertan thing really has got me baffled, even from the sidelines over previous seasons anyone can see he is useless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I read something a few days ago where McClaren talked about Obertan and he seemed to like the defensive job he supposedly did on Southampton's left-back. There was other things said too but I remember that specifically. Plus he got the assist which gives him an easy 'excuse' as it were Here it is http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-mcclaren-reveals-reasons-fielding-9827720 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I read something a few days ago where McClaren talked about Obertan and he seemed to like the defensive job he supposedly did on Southampton's left-back. There was other things said too but I remember that specifically. Plus he got the assist which gives him an easy 'excuse' as it were Think it was in terms of Obertan tying Cedric up with his speed. Just completely disregarding our other speedy, but much better winger. And Aoyze. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 It's been 2 games, and he's been left with squad coached by a bunch of complete fuckwits and used to being hoyed out on the field and told to get on with it for 90 mins. It's going to take time and the more patience that can be afforded the better imo. Expectations are pretty low anyway tbh, but I have faith he'll recognise the deficiencies in talentless no-marks like Obertan soon enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 2 games he's had 3/4 better options stuck on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 "Can't win with ten players on the field" "Learned nothing". "Wanted speed on the sides" when explaining no strikers. "Ten men", "Ten men", "Ten men". Not impressed by his interview at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 To be fair to him, we are getting exactly what we pay for. It's pretty sad we struggle to compete with the likes of Swansea though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 He's right about the ten men thing, there's no doubt about it tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 He's right about the ten men thing, there's no doubt about it tbh. It didn't really change the game though. We looked poor right from the start. We would of course have better chances with eleven men, but it's a part of the game. It's not impossible to get something out of a game with ten men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 He's another one of these coaches that is negative when it comes to opposition. Wish we would get someone pro active instead of reactive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number9shirt Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Way too early but I just don't see McLaren being a success Not sure about that. The P1 is an absolute masterpiece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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