Elliottman Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I’ve always felt this run of games would be where we'd get a clear idea what the side is going to be like under McClaren. If we can pick up a couple more wins quickly we might just be ok. Some promising signs. Desperately needs to work on the full backs though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 On the width thing it's worth pointing out that we have potentially one of the best strikers at heading the ball and attacking things in the division yet yesterday didn't put a cross in the box he could attack properly nor really ever looked like doing do. EDIT: suppose it contrasted sharply to the quality and consistency of the crosses Norwich were putting in first half. Mitrovic would have got about 6 from their crosses. We did put balls in the box, just turns out someone else was on the end of them. that's not what i mean really, i'm bemoaning the fact that we didn't have anyone putting crosses in like olsen or redmond coming from deep, proper old fashioned crosses that are there to be attacked when we've got the perfect player to attack them just seems a really fucking weird way to go about things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Janmaat had an assist from a cross, Sissoko did...I'm not overly concerned about that aspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 let me try again - i'm saying it doesn't appear to be a targetted tactic that we're employing with any degree of focus or repetition, to get people out wide coming from deep and whipping crosses in to be attacked - in direct contrast to how good norwich were at it during the first half for example it happened during the game, yes, but we're not very good at it is what i'm getting at Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 More like that please. If we can't defend, let them attack. Deserves lots of credit today, would have been easy to try and keep things very tight considering the position we are in and the pressure on him. Pardew certainly would have. We tried to keep it tight for the first 20 minutes of the second half and could easily have ended up regretting it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 More like that please. If we can't defend, let them attack. Deserves lots of credit today, would have been easy to try and keep things very tight considering the position we are in and the pressure on him. Pardew certainly would have. We tried to keep it tight for the first 20 minutes of the second half and could easily have ended up regretting it yep - if he's any sense now he'll just try and outscore the poorer teams in the division and try to use sissoko and mitrovic to counter against the better teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Sorry if SEB (copyright RTG), but has anyone mentioned his post match comments? Very Pardew'esque when speaking about Sissoko. "Easy to see why top 4 clubs want him and why he wants to play in the Champions League. If he plays like that every week, then that's no problem". Or something like that. Kind of thought he may be looking for consistency from him, hence why he mentioned playing like that "every week". As he is so hit and miss, it is unreal. But I still wasn't mad keen on the comments. I fancied us for a big win yesterday, but didn't see us bagging 6. Fair play to McClaren. Needs to kick on now. Shame there isn't another low pressure game coming up and it's the derby next week. As I would fancy us to win well again, if we were playing someone like West Brom or Stoke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 More like that please. If we can't defend, let them attack. Deserves lots of credit today, would have been easy to try and keep things very tight considering the position we are in and the pressure on him. Pardew certainly would have. We tried to keep it tight for the first 20 minutes of the second half and could easily have ended up regretting it But we didn't. Two awful defences, yet one teams scored six the other scored two. We've showed glimpses of what this team is capable and it was the same again yesterday. Its not perfect, but after 1 win in 19 it was never going to be. It'll take time to restore confidence and ridding themselves of the last 12 months. Baby steps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Last time I remember us winning by this much it lead to Pardew dropping the culprit. More of this please and I might start to feel again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 More like that please. If we can't defend, let them attack. Deserves lots of credit today, would have been easy to try and keep things very tight considering the position we are in and the pressure on him. Pardew certainly would have. We tried to keep it tight for the first 20 minutes of the second half and could easily have ended up regretting it Don't think that was the tactic, tbh. Simpson was constantly telling them to push out. They were a nervous team without a win, sagging back was going to happen when the squad has the lack of character it does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 IF we had a striker in the Remy mould and a dynamic quality CM and stronger defense then i would like to see something like this. (Yeah lots of if's and shit i know ) Krul Janmaat Mbemba New New New Sissoko Wijnaldum Perez Mitrovic New Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 let me try again - i'm saying it doesn't appear to be a targetted tactic that we're employing with any degree of focus or repetition, to get people out wide coming from deep and whipping crosses in to be attacked - in direct contrast to how good norwich were at it during the first half for example it happened during the game, yes, but we're not very good at it is what i'm getting at Dummett whipped one in beautifully within the first 5 minutes, like, should've happened more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 IF we had a striker in the Remy mould and a dynamic quality CM and stronger defense then i would like to see something like this. (Yeah lots of if's and s*** i know ) Krul Janmaat Mbemba New New New Sissoko Wijnaldum Perez Mitrovic New This would be great if we had a really top DM,but definitely not the case. In actuality I would actually play that with Ayoze beside Mitrovic and then De Jong/Thauvin behind them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Just about the defence, but the Bassong chance and the Janmaat penalty shout would be my biggest concern. We are clearly vulnerable to set pieces, and probably give away more free kicks in promising areas that we should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Sorry if SEB (copyright RTG), but has anyone mentioned his post match comments? Very Pardew'esque when speaking about Sissoko. "Easy to see why top 4 clubs want him and why he wants to play in the Champions League. If he plays like that every week, then that's no problem". Or something like that. Kind of thought he may be looking for consistency from him, hence why he mentioned playing like that "every week". As he is so hit and miss, it is unreal. But I still wasn't mad keen on the comments. I fancied us for a big win yesterday, but didn't see us bagging 6. Fair play to McClaren. Needs to kick on now. Shame there isn't another low pressure game coming up and it's the derby next week. As I would fancy us to win well again, if we were playing someone like West Brom or Stoke. Basically what we've been saying on here. On his game he's great but if he wants to play in the CL he needs to do it week in week out. He's obviously an ambitious lad and wants to play at the top, you're not going to motivate him with the pride of the city or the love of the shirt but make him see that the only way to achieve his dreams is to put in the work each and every game and we might get a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Just about the defence, but the Bassong chance and the Janmaat penalty shout would be my biggest concern. We are clearly vulnerable to set pieces, and probably give away more free kicks in promising areas that we should. It was a blatant penalty but TBF something like that happens at nearly every corner in every game of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Just about the defence, but the Bassong chance and the Janmaat penalty shout would be my biggest concern. We are clearly vulnerable to set pieces, and probably give away more free kicks in promising areas that we should. This is what worries me about Sunderland, FS will be looking to exploit that with his favourite hit-it-high tactic. They'll be looking for set pieces around the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Just about the defence, but the Bassong chance and the Janmaat penalty shout would be my biggest concern. We are clearly vulnerable to set pieces, and probably give away more free kicks in promising areas that we should. This is what worries me about Sunderland, FS will be looking to exploit that with his favourite hit-it-high tactic. They'll be looking for set pieces around the box. Iron Mike time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 IF we had a striker in the Remy mould and a dynamic quality CM and stronger defense then i would like to see something like this. (Yeah lots of if's and s*** i know ) Krul Janmaat Mbemba New New New Sissoko Wijnaldum Perez Mitrovic New Jetro Willems at LB, Berahino at ST next to Mitrovic and get a brute dynamic CM who can play and hold shit together behind Sissoko/Wijnaldum and that's a team. Ain't a fucking clue who to buy to play CB but someone like Matip or at minimum 6 foot 2 or something with some strength. It's imperative that the person brought in at CB or CM/DM be a leader/captain and one who doesn't "lead by example" For me, armband should go to Wijnaldum sooner than later - latest in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Just about the defence, but the Bassong chance and the Janmaat penalty shout would be my biggest concern. We are clearly vulnerable to set pieces, and probably give away more free kicks in promising areas that we should. This is what worries me about Sunderland, FS will be looking to exploit that with his favourite hit-it-high tactic. They'll be looking for set pieces around the box. Iron Mike time? I know your kidding but Lascelles would be more likely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 IF we had a striker in the Remy mould and a dynamic quality CM and stronger defense then i would like to see something like this. (Yeah lots of if's and s*** i know ) Krul Janmaat Mbemba New New New Sissoko Wijnaldum Perez Mitrovic New Jetro Willems at LB, Berahino at ST next to Mitrovic and get a brute dynamic CM who can play and hold shit together behind Sissoko/Wijnaldum and that's a team. Ain't a fucking clue who to buy to play CB but someone like Matip or at minimum 6 foot 2 or something with some strength. It's imperative that the person brought in at CB or CM/DM be a leader/captain and one who doesn't "lead by example" For me, armband should go to Wijnaldum sooner than later - latest in the summer. Think Berahino is a bit similar to Perez. Don't think we should be breaking up the Perez-Mitrovic second striker/striker partnership anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I'm not, I'm adding Berahino in for his pace/ability and converting Perez full time to a SS / ACM / #10 - Berahino, Mitro, and Perez in a diamond 3 would be incredible IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Totally agree, they are looking good together, leave them up top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Slot De Jong/Thauvin in behind Mitro and Perez IMO. One of them would pan out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I'm not, I'm adding Berahino in for his pace/ability and converting Perez full time to a SS / ACM / #10 - Berahino, Mitro, and Perez in a diamond 3 would be incredible IMO. I just don't think it's really necessary and think they may all just get in each other's way if they are all up there. I think 442 like we've been playing lately with Wijnaldum and Sissoko on the wings but with licence to roam is our best bet. Also that midfield in the above example would limit the freedom that Wijnaldum and Sissoko have as they would need to help out more defensively Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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