Gallowgate Toon Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I can't work out how we got a performance like yesterday's. The squad has been in OK-ish form over the last few weeks (7 points out of 12 is what I expect from our lot, they're just not very good) and put in generally decent performances and then you get that sort of rubbish. We've actually been looking like a team for 6/7 weeks or so (bar Bournemouth and second half against City) but they slunk back to their disillusioned/not arsed mode so quickly. The sort of unity and determination we saw that began to turn the tide a bit just disappeared; lots of moaning, focusing on the wrong things and just not doing the very basic stuff. It's almost as if they thought they'd done enough to get themselves out of trouble and they could start to coast. Too many tossers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Carr is not the problem imo. Hire a manager and give him control over signings...Carr can still do his job - any reason Carr would´t accept this model? He is the man responsible for finding good players for his master and the vast majority simply haven't worked. He has been a massive failure in that sense and a prominent part of our own failure on the pitch. That said, a lot of players have been under coached and allowed to rot, that and a good number have been the wrong fit for the type of manager and tactics used. He has to go along with everyone else responsible for the recruitment of players, regardless. Ben Arfa vs Cabbella and Thauvin. One cost under 6m and was given away for nowt despite generally performing in his overall time here. Although the manager at the time, Pardew, is to blame for the Ben Arfa situation. His replacements, however, recommended by Carr cost over 20m combined together apparently and neither are fit to lace the former's boots. Poor scouting whatever the weather. Ashley, Carr, Charnley, Moncur, McClaren and his staff and even Beardsley, they all have to go. Not one of them are capable of doing a good job never mind an excellent one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Carr's been on borrowed time for a while. For a club who spends so little we've wasted loads on players with incredibly poor suitability for the PL. Sack him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Carr's been on borrowed time for a while. For a club who spends so little we've wasted loads on players with incredibly poor suitability for the PL. Sack him. Definitely seems like he operates as someone who is able to find out the contract status of players, rather than properly assess them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Hasn't got signed us a decent proper CM and Winger for us in years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 we have a bottom six squad, not sure any manager would do much better. Too many players are simple not good enough. For years our defence has been shocking, one you centre back from the Belgium league was never going to fix the defence. The centre of midfield would struggle in the conference to create chances . Not saying he is the right man, but I think others need to go before him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 He's going to have to drop some big players to get the team motivated again. The likes of Colo, Janmaat, Sissoko. He needs to somehow inject the spirit of competition that's been leached out of the club. Not easy, and won't go down well because the replacements are shit, but I can't see any other way to shake things up and get some life into the team again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The moment he took Mitro off and put Cisse on and persisted with playing a fucking shite 4-5-1 when you're losing 0-2 to Leicester at home was it for me like, he's undoubtedly no better than his predecessor. Out of his depth and god awful to watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I didn't think he'd be this bad. For the most part, we have been absolutely dreadful. Even though I have at times, been encouraged by the set up and how we've tried to pass the ball around. I'm now at the stage. Where I'd happily have Brendan Rodgers or Moyes instead. I don't like either of them. Rodgers because he's insufferable and Moyes because I think he's a bang average manager, who doesn't play particularly exciting football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 "It was the worst performance we've had this season, very disappointing and off the back of what has been a very good run. I know all managers talk s***. But I'm not having that. Our 5 games before Leicester. We lost 6-1 to City. Beat Norwich 6-2. Lost 3-0 to sunderland. Drew 0-0 with Stoke at home. Then somehow beat Bournemouth, despite being played off the park. A very good run indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 He's awful. The best thing about him seems to be from time we'll play some decent carpet football and create nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Seedorf mentioned by Calcio Mercato as a replacement after talks between us and him. No doubt shite but would be exciting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Seedorf mentioned by Calcio Mercato as a replacement after talks between us and him. No doubt shite but would be exciting. Little Mike getting big ideas huh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 http://www.calciomercatonews.com/2015/11/22/esclusiva-seedorf-ritorna/ Exclusive by the look of things but no quotes or anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Would be thrilled if we got Seedorf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spark Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Stick him in centre midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Stick him in centre midfield. Better than Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Would be thrilled if we got Seedorf As if. I'm sure someone like Seedorf is going to come here and accept players recruited by an accountant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Think he's been linked with QPR and Galatasaray recently. Would command instant respect but I'm sure he's not so desperate to work for this regime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Seedorf mentioned by Calcio Mercato as a replacement after talks between us and him. No doubt shite but would be exciting. We'll end up with Coloccini as player-manager, no point in getting your hopes up for someone competent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Think he's been linked with QPR and Galatasaray recently. Would command instant respect but I'm sure he's not so desperate to work for this regime. I bet Shearer's told him how good the current regime are to work for too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I would cream myself silly if we got Seedorf. I don't care how good / bad he is, he's one of my favorite players of all time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I would cream myself silly if we got Seedorf. I don't care how good / bad he is, he's one of my favorite players of all time. Steve McClarence Seedorf? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 We need to try as hard as we can to find someone who will set the team up exactly like Diego Simeone does with Atleti. That attitude, energy and passion is what is missing. Need to hold these wankers like Sissoko accountable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I think what is starting to piss me off about McClaren is that he seems unable to put his finger on where the problems are. After every non-performance it's the usual "we didn't play very well". Yeah thanks for that remarkable insight Steve. You listen to Klopp and Pochettino and they tell you exactly what they expect and how to get it. I could get it if McClaren was just protecting his players, but I don't think that's it. I just think he's genuinely flummoxed and doesn't know how to put it right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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