Guest GallowgateKev Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 He was unlucky England? The only manager to fail to qualify for a major championship in 20 years? Was he also unlucky at Wolfsburg or Forest? Even his second spell at Twente and the final part of Derby? He's had two successes in his career. Middlesbrough, where they were pretty big spenders, and Twente. By saying he's World Class you're putting him the category of Mourinho & Ancelotti. Which means your fishing or utterly mental. McClaren OUT!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 More than underwhelmed by this but as other have said, better than Carver and potentially Pardew too. If he manages to get the team he wants and focuses on sorting both our defence and attacking style, then fair play. I don't see him as a long term solution but perhaps someone who MIGHT be able to get more out of the players we have through better coaching etc. If he is forced to keep the current coaching team then I think this is only going to end one way and that means we are in the same boat next year! He has to be allowed to bring in his own people otherwise the negative, slack and completely unprofessional standards/tactics and ethos established by Pardew and Carver will not be going anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Bad luck if he's not the long-term solution, he'll be here for at least 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 He was unlucky England? The only manager to fail to qualify for a major championship in 20 years? Was he also unlucky at Wolfsburg or Forest? Even his second spell at Twente and the final part of Derby? He's had two successes in his career. Middlesbrough, where they were pretty big spenders, and Twente. By saying he's World Class you're putting him the category of Mourinho & Ancelotti. Which means your fishing or utterly mental. McClaren OUT!!!!! Now you want him out? You're a fickle person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Flicked on Premier League Years 05/06 and within 30 seconds McClaren had a season ticket thrown at him, 5 minutes later his Boro side are beating Mourinho's Chelsea 3-0. That's still the most goals that one of his Chelsea sides have lost by, guess we'll have some decent performances but all of his sides seem to have had an ability to get absolutely dicked on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 He's not as detestable or arrogant as Pardew, or as incompetent as Carver, so it will be better than we've had it for years. Not that it's saying much, I'll give it 6 months and two early exit from the cups that this opinion is no longer the case. TBH I don't mind him as a person or a manager, never have. I imagine he's a really knowledgeable guy - I just don't want him as manager. He does like a bloke who smells of stale baccy though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 If McClaren's World Class, imagine what Alex Ferguson, Pep Guardiola and Jose Mourihno are. Fucking Interplanetary MegaZord Class, I imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I don't know. If we had the option of Guardiola or McClaren I'd be umming and ahhing about the decision for ages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GallowgateKev Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I'm Just following the crowd... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 He was unlucky England? The only manager to fail to qualify for a major championship in 20 years? Was he also unlucky at Wolfsburg or Forest? Even his second spell at Twente and the final part of Derby? He's had two successes in his career. Middlesbrough, where they were pretty big spenders, and Twente. By saying he's World Class you're putting him the category of Mourinho & Ancelotti. Which means your fishing or utterly mental. I won't class Derby as a failure . He has left them in a better position he found them although he should have at least made the playoffs. Even the highly regarded managers in England have had blips in their career Pochettino in his last season at Espanyol, Koeman at Valencia who was sacked despite winning a trophy in the same season, Martinez relegating Wigan etc.. .As a manager who has never relegated a team I'd say it's more of a risk for him managing us then us appointing him, given our league performances in the past 3 seasons and the resources he will work with . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I'm Just following the crowd... Excellent, can you quote me everyone on this forum who has said McClaren Out (without actively trying to be a dick or deeply sarcastic). I'll do it for you... There you go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GallowgateKev Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 McClaren is a cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 He was unlucky England? The only manager to fail to qualify for a major championship in 20 years? Was he also unlucky at Wolfsburg or Forest? Even his second spell at Twente and the final part of Derby? He's had two successes in his career. Middlesbrough, where they were pretty big spenders, and Twente. By saying he's World Class you're putting him the category of Mourinho & Ancelotti. Which means your fishing or utterly mental. I won't class Derby as a failure . He has left them in a better position he found them although he should have at least made the playoffs. Even the highly regarded managers in England have had blips in their career Pochettino in his last season at Espanyol, Koeman at Valencia who was sacked despite winning a trophy in the same season, Martinez relegating Wigan etc.. .As a manager who has never relegated a team I'd say it's more of a risk for him managing us then us appointing him, given our league performances in the past 3 seasons and the resources he will work with . Derby were 10th the season before he took over and were 8th when he was sacked. Not exactly left them massively up the table after two years. I'd say his time at Derby wasn't a failure but it wasn't really a success either. Manager's do have blips but McClaren has more failure than success. He's not a tragedy of a manager, but his record does not qualify him to manage a club like Newcastle. The fact that it's been a decade since a Premier League club has given him a job surely emphasises this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Call me a typical deluded English fanboy, but if as a coach you can't get a team through the qualifying phases to a European Championships with every English player at your disposal, then you should just give up and re-train as a caretaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Do you think his appointment will delay any moves into the transfer market? Usually a manager likes to look at who he has first? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 We've been so damaged by Pardew that we will be surprised by how much we will enjoy this guy's stewardship as soon as he does get started. Carr will convince him to give our signings a run in their correct positions, and it will all come together beautifully. It's going to be a big romance. Get ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Do you think his appointment will delay any moves into the transfer market? Our being Newcastle United will be delay enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I've got a feeling he'll do well. Ultimately it will depend on what we do in the market though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espio Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 This cunt sacked yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 This cunt hired yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 We better start signing quite a few fucking good players if this season is going be fun at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 He was unlucky England? The only manager to fail to qualify for a major championship in 20 years? Was he also unlucky at Wolfsburg or Forest? Even his second spell at Twente and the final part of Derby? He's had two successes in his career. Middlesbrough, where they were pretty big spenders, and Twente. By saying he's World Class you're putting him the category of Mourinho & Ancelotti. Which means your fishing or utterly mental. I won't class Derby as a failure . He has left them in a better position he found them although he should have at least made the playoffs. Even the highly regarded managers in England have had blips in their career Pochettino in his last season at Espanyol, Koeman at Valencia who was sacked despite winning a trophy in the same season, Martinez relegating Wigan etc.. .As a manager who has never relegated a team I'd say it's more of a risk for him managing us then us appointing him, given our league performances in the past 3 seasons and the resources he will work with . Derby were 10th the season before he took over and were 8th when he was sacked. Not exactly left them massively up the table after two years. I'd say his time at Derby wasn't a failure but it wasn't really a success either. Manager's do have blips but McClaren has more failure than success. He's not a tragedy of a manager, but his record does not qualify him to manage a club like Newcastle. The fact that it's been a decade since a Premier League club has given him a job surely emphasises this. It does sound bad the way you're stating it but when you look in detail they finished 1 point less than the 5th and 14 points better than the 10th team. That gives a better idea of their progress than only their league position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Not particularly given it's league position that actually matters. But I get your point and as I say I don't see it as a failure, just not success either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Call me a typical deluded English fanboy, but if as a coach you can't get a team through the qualifying phases to a European Championships with every English player at your disposal, then you should just give up and re-train as a caretaker. But instead he took a Dutch team whose previous 10 league campaigns had finished with them anywhere between 4th and 12th and led them to a runners up spot and then the following season to the title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GallowgateKev Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 We could get Mourinho in and it wouldn't matter, the squad is fucking dog shit and we're spending fuck all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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