Ronaldo Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 As I said, effectiveness over ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Effectiveness that has not been measured over a long enough period to be definitive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Nothing's definitive. You see what you see and come up with an opinion. I'd rather have Carroll in my side than the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 As I said, effectiveness over ability. or referring to my point about people saying he's better than reina etc bullshit over honesty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I hate being a sissy but I'm now genuinely worried about how long we'll be able to keep him. It seems that every hyped young english player starting out at smaller premiership teams in the past five years has without exception been poached by bigger clubs. Ex) young, downing, bentley, johnson If someone wants to offer £35m for him the fair enough, its something we can't turn down but he's just signed a 5 years deal, he's going nowhere unless the offer is gigantic. Just did a random click on any page and landed on this post. Fuck me, TT is mistic meg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 As I said, effectiveness over ability. or referring to my point about people saying he's better than reina etc bullshit over honesty. You'd rather have Pepe Reina in your team than Andy Carroll? Fair enough if true, like. But couldn't disagree more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 As I said, effectiveness over ability. or referring to my point about people saying he's better than reina etc bullshit over honesty. Nah, it's just common sense realy Reina has been one of the best players in his possission for years, Carroll has been for months. Judging by your theory no-one could possibly even suggest that Messi is a better footballer than James Perch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 As I said, effectiveness over ability. or referring to my point about people saying he's better than reina etc bullshit over honesty. You'd rather have Pepe Reina in your team than Andy Carroll? Fair enough if true, like. But couldn't disagree more. if i'm after a keeper, yes i'l take reina, wouldn't you ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 As I said, effectiveness over ability. or referring to my point about people saying he's better than reina etc bullshit over honesty. Nah, it's just common sense realy Reina has been one of the best players in his possission for years, Carroll has been for months. Judging by your theory no-one could possibly even suggest that Messi is a better footballer than James Perch. Christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 As I said, effectiveness over ability. or referring to my point about people saying he's better than reina etc bullshit over honesty. Nah, it's just common sense realy Reina has been one of the best players in his possission for years, Carroll has been for months. Judging by your theory no-one could possibly even suggest that Messi is a better footballer than James Perch. no. its that it's fucking stupid to say i'd rather have gordon banks than pele. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 If there was a list of things I least gave a shit about in the world, my spelling on an internet forum would be near the bottom like If it's coherent then it's good enough for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 As I said, effectiveness over ability. or referring to my point about people saying he's better than reina etc bullshit over honesty. You'd rather have Pepe Reina in your team than Andy Carroll? Fair enough if true, like. But couldn't disagree more. if i'm after a keeper, yes i'l take reina, wouldn't you ? I'm after the player who puts more points on the board than Mr Average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 If there was a list of things I least gave a shit about in the world, my spelling on an internet forum would be near the bottom like If it's coherent then it's good enough for me. Aye, it doesn't bother me at all like, but that one was amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 As I said, effectiveness over ability. or referring to my point about people saying he's better than reina etc bullshit over honesty. Nah, it's just common sense realy Reina has been one of the best players in his possission for years, Carroll has been for months. Judging by your theory no-one could possibly even suggest that Messi is a better footballer than James Perch. no. its that it's f***ing stupid to say i'd rather have gordon banks than pele. Depends if you needed a keeper or a striker. Were sort of getting away from the issue here anyway, Andy Carroll has not, by any means proven to be the best player at Liverpool, and especialy not by a distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 If there was a list of things I least gave a s*** about in the world, my spelling on an internet forum would be near the bottom like If it's coherent then it's good enough for me. Aye, it doesn't bother me at all like, but that one was amazing I'm probably the worst literate in the world with a keyboard tbh, if I dont proof read my posts there will usualy be a few gems scattered about like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Reina is one of the best goalkeepers in the world, whilst Carroll is a very promising young striker. It has to be Reina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 To actually see him in a Liverpool shirt hurt a lot but meh, we have more important things to think about than Carroll's Liverpool career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Limitations or not, there's no way he'll end up on the bench for any considerable period of time. He's the best player at that club by a distance. He's the best player in Liverpool by some distance? I want to know what sort of measurement you use to compare players in different positions and more importantly what sort of drugs that you are using to say that Carroll is better than the likes of Gerrard and Suarez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I was surprisingly quite excited when he came on for Liverpool, I was keen to see how he did. Despite the fact that intellectually I absolutely hate the guy now... weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Limitations or not, there's no way he'll end up on the bench for any considerable period of time. He's the best player at that club by a distance. He's the best player in Liverpool by some distance? I want to know what sort of measurement you use to compare players in different positions and more importantly what sort of drugs that you are using to say that Carroll is better than the likes of Gerrard and Suarez? Gerrard's way his past his best and was overrated to begin with. Suarez I haven't seen much of, and neither have you I suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Gerrard is just a wasteful punter, while Andy Carroll is the perfect target man. He has murdered pretty much every CB he has faced. Not ashamed to admit, I still can't get over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Gerrard's way past his best. Carroll's a better player than him. Suarez is better than Carroll because he offers more. I think Carroll will struggle to fit into the team and their style of play. They'll have to get decent service from him, which means a couple of new wingers. I just don't think that Carroll's mobile enough (yet) to play at the very top level. You could see how slow he was in receiving the ball and laying it off on Saturday, and those basic things aren't really affected by a lack of fitness. It's just a basic technical thing that Carroll's not good enough at (yet). I will give Carroll a lot of credit for how much he's improved in the past year, so he's shown that he can develop skills which he never had. I suppose that's what Liverpool is hoping will continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 In general agreement with Ronaldo. Also don't think the Liverpool move is as bad for him as has been made out. In ways the people/supporters aren't that different from here and given the momentum of the moves, with Nolan and Barton offering their mates to help him settle in, it can be a home away from home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 P.S. Thought his comments about their atmosphere being 'one of' the best he's played in when he's played in so few games, largely against 2nd Division opposition as opposed to 'the biggest rivalry in football', were quite insulting to Liverpool and therefore honest of him, it wasn't just 'new signing, kiss the badge' bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Sadly Carroll will probably do amazingly well for Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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