chicago_shearer Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 If it meant a full time manager actually getting down to work tomorrow morning, I'd give Hitler a fresh start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 If it meant a full time manager actually getting down to work tomorrow morning, I'd give Hitler a fresh start. That echoes my thoughts exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 In the circumstances we might have no choice. The club being left to rot under Ashley is unthinkable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Not until I hear it from Shearer. Direct quotes from Shearer would be interesting, or this means nothing at all. Fair enough, it's not like anything reported lately has been 100% accurate. It was in a few different places that Shearer and Shepherd had met to discuss the plans though - I doubt that would happen if Shearer wasn't interested. Wonder if he's met with any other interested party? That's a reasonable point Dave, but you'd need to know who approached who. If it was Shepherd's lot approaching Shearer, then Shearer isn't in the position to approach 'interested consortiums', is he? James - what has Shepherd done ever to make you trust him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 i'd give fred a head start........shut my eyes and count to 20 stylee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 i'd give fred a head start........shut my eyes and count to 20 stylee. I'd cheat and watch where he was going through my fingers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I'd rather not have Shearer if it meant Shepherd was coming back. THIS.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovineblue Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 i'd give fred a head start........shut my eyes and count to 20 stylee. I'd cheat and watch where he was going through my fingers. Wise move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Tbh i'm scared shitless of another relegation scrap as things stand. I think Shepherd will provide some sort of avenue to re-hash the squad, and provde a relatively efficient managerial set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Obviously in an ideal world he wouldn't be my number 1 choice, but at the moment I'd take just about anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon55544 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Yes i will definately give him another chance. He has made some very poor decisions in the past but imo if this club is gonna survive and have a serious push to get back into the Premiership then we need to be united. I cant see the positives of the board and fans being enemies from day 1. What we need atm is a chairman who will back the manager. For the faults FS may of had, nobody can argue that he didnt back the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brazilianbob Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Regardless of peoples somewhat predjudiced view of Freddy Shepherd the bloke IS AN UNDISPUTED NUFC FAN and can run a football club. He has all the contacts in the game that MA never had and despite the view that he ran the club into massive debt, he always said that the club was never in danger of folding like MA insisted, and that the debt was always a perfectly serviceable debt. That said I fully expect him to run the club in a similar fashion so we can expect to be in debt, but hey, Liverpool are over £300m in debt, so our problems are chickenfeed compared to them. Bring it on I say andlets give the bloke a second chance it can't be any worse than the MA tenure! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Regardless of peoples somewhat predjudiced view of Freddy Shepherd the bloke IS AN UNDISPUTED NUFC FAN and can run a football club. He has all the contacts in the game that MA never had and despite the view that he ran the club into massive debt, he always said that the club was never in danger of folding like MA insisted, and that the debt was always a perfectly serviceable debt. That said I fully expect him to run the club in a similar fashion so we can expect to be in debt, but hey, Liverpool are over £300m in debt, so our problems are chickenfeed compared to them. Bring it on I say andlets give the bloke a second chance it can't be any worse than the MA tenure! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 no, he started this mess by putting us unto debt, spending sponsor money before we got it, giving players like Luque 50k per week when he only wanted something like 20k, giving Owen 110k per week, hiring Fat Sam. Its partly his fault we are in this mess in the first place. No. People forget how bad he was! This and This!! I know things are looking really bad at the moment but Freddy would be a massive step backwards, we've been there done that and got the rather ugly looking t-shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Lets be honest here i firmly believe if Freddy shepherd was still in charge and had not sold to the incompetent cockney fuckwit we would still be apremier league team..i have no doubt what so ever about that some of the ridiculous decisions decided by the thick shit ashley would never have been contemplated by Freddie Come back Freddie all is forgiven Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Just need to make sure that any investors are ahead of him, so that he's not just squandering money needlessly. A bit like Quinn and Drumaville and now Quinn and Short. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Yes in fact I may go as far as to say I am over the moon and will welcome him back, that may wear off but right now I am smiling about NUFC aint done that for a long time... I hope this deal gets done! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 The thing is, and I tend to stay away from these debates as they get on my threpneys, however I thought I'd post my two penneth. At the moment (this latest rumour aside) we are adrift. No leadership, be it manager, owner, chairman. We are a newly relegated 'big' name. We are a scalp for many a championship team who will be out to nock us. We have an astronomical wage bill, we have players who currently dont know if they will be playing for us next season and we have fans who are, not only not renewing season tickets, but becoming sick, tired and generally pissed off with the whole situation. At present, we will, for the opening game of the season have around 25k attendance guestimate. In other words, on a downwards, slippery slope with no outlet or hope in sight. If Shepherd takes over, we will at least have a manager, an expierienced footballing chairman and generally a solid foundation to work on. Yes Shepherd was a liability, we overspent and made some horrendous decisions during his reign. On the flipside, the manager was backed to the hilt, we were finishing in champions league positions, we actually spent money during transfer windows and didnt end up with a negative net spend. People are worried about any debt accumulated by him, however to be succesful you have to speculate to acumulate. You have to look at Liverpool/Man U etc just to realise manageable debt means success unfortunately. Dont forget, he also has rumoured financial backing from other parties, so will not be let loose to spend spend spend. Anyhow. I could rant on for ages. Its not the best deal in the world for Newcastle, however I, along with many others that I have spoken to are saying better the devil you know. I just want things sorted one way or another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 The thing is, and I tend to stay away from these debates as they get on my threpneys, however I thought I'd post my two penneth. At the moment (this latest rumour aside) we are adrift. No leadership, be it manager, owner, chairman. We are a newly relegated 'big' name. We are a scalp for many a championship team who will be out to nock us. We have an astronomical wage bill, we have players who currently dont know if they will be playing for us next season and we have fans who are, not only not renewing season tickets, but becoming sick, tired and generally pissed off with the whole situation. At present, we will, for the opening game of the season have around 25k attendance guestimate. In other words, on a downwards, slippery slope with no outlet or hope in sight. If Shepherd takes over, we will at least have a manager, an expierienced footballing chairman and generally a solid foundation to work on. Yes Shepherd was a liability, we overspent and made some horrendous decisions during his reign. On the flipside, the manager was backed to the hilt, we were finishing in champions league positions, we actually spent money during transfer windows and didnt end up with a negative net spend. People are worried about any debt accumulated by him, however to be succesful you have to speculate to acumulate. You have to look at Liverpool/Man U etc just to realise manageable debt means success unfortunately. Dont forget, he also has rumoured financial backing from other parties, so will not be let loose to spend spend spend. Anyhow. I could rant on for ages. Its not the best deal in the world for Newcastle, however I, along with many others that I have spoken to are saying better the devil you know. I just want things sorted one way or another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garth Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 The thing is, and I tend to stay away from these debates as they get on my threpneys, however I thought I'd post my two penneth. At the moment (this latest rumour aside) we are adrift. No leadership, be it manager, owner, chairman. We are a newly relegated 'big' name. We are a scalp for many a championship team who will be out to nock us. We have an astronomical wage bill, we have players who currently dont know if they will be playing for us next season and we have fans who are, not only not renewing season tickets, but becoming sick, tired and generally pissed off with the whole situation. At present, we will, for the opening game of the season have around 25k attendance guestimate. In other words, on a downwards, slippery slope with no outlet or hope in sight. If Shepherd takes over, we will at least have a manager, an expierienced footballing chairman and generally a solid foundation to work on. Yes Shepherd was a liability, we overspent and made some horrendous decisions during his reign. On the flipside, the manager was backed to the hilt, we were finishing in champions league positions, we actually spent money during transfer windows and didnt end up with a negative net spend. People are worried about any debt accumulated by him, however to be succesful you have to speculate to acumulate. You have to look at Liverpool/Man U etc just to realise manageable debt means success unfortunately. Dont forget, he also has rumoured financial backing from other parties, so will not be let loose to spend spend spend. Anyhow. I could rant on for ages. Its not the best deal in the world for Newcastle, however I, along with many others that I have spoken to are saying better the devil you know. I just want things sorted one way or another. That may be so to a point but he spent fuck all when Sir Bobby was Manager, only decent manager that should have got funds for players even Shearer himself complained at the time we needed to spend money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 At least we will have a chairman, which will be a step up itself. Communication, signings, ACTIONS, ambition...ahh bliss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 I can see Shepherd coming in and getting rid of the deadwood at least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Let's just say I really hope there are some alternative bids. Shepherd delivered some temporary almost-success, there's no arguing with that. But he leeched the club for his personal gain and left us in a very poor financial state. I hope he's learned the lessons from his last spell in charge, remains to be seen. One thing's for sure, he doesn't have the wealth to spend much money, without further increasing our debt burden. The one good thing that Ashley has done is clear some of the debt, so I wouldn't want to see that go to waste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 no Says it all for me like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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