ChrisMcQuillan Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Sorry but its not Dave, some people on here go on about "only signed some players on a free" in reference to the quality of our signings or squad, as if either would be better if we'd paid the market rate. Just the other day I read "we went into this window needing two strikers, and so far we've only signed one on a FREE!!", as if that makes Demba Ba any less of a quality striker People highlight free transfers not because it reduces the quality of the player, but because it hammers home the fact there's no reason we shouldn't be putting the money we've saved towards buying players in the other areas we need strengthening. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Sorry but its not Dave, some people on here go on about "only signed some players on a free" in reference to the quality of our signings or squad, as if either would be better if we'd paid the market rate. Just the other day I read "we went into this window needing two strikers, and so far we've only signed one on a FREE!!", as if that makes Demba Ba any less of a quality striker People highlight free transfers not because it reduces the quality of the player, but because it hammers home the fact there's no reason we shouldn't be putting the money we've saved towards buying players in the other areas we need strengthening. Spot on, mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Sorry but its not Dave, some people on here go on about "only signed some players on a free" in reference to the quality of our signings or squad, as if either would be better if we'd paid the market rate. Just the other day I read "we went into this window needing two strikers, and so far we've only signed one on a FREE!!", as if that makes Demba Ba any less of a quality striker People highlight free transfers not because it reduces the quality of the player, but because it hammers home the fact there's no reason we shouldn't be putting the money we've saved towards buying players in the other areas we need strengthening. I think its more that people aren't convinced we are buying the players who are the best fit for the club and that instead we see a player, realise he is free/has a release clause and buy him because it is seen it as a good deal which may result in future profit. I don't have a problem with this approach as long as we are prepared to spend money on players we need when necessary - as of yet I haven't seen much evidence of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Both responses are spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 They can't hide free is best, its not about the right player it never has been, investing cash is always the last option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Sorry but its not Dave, some people on here go on about "only signed some players on a free" in reference to the quality of our signings or squad, as if either would be better if we'd paid the market rate. Just the other day I read "we went into this window needing two strikers, and so far we've only signed one on a FREE!!", as if that makes Demba Ba any less of a quality striker People highlight free transfers not because it reduces the quality of the player, but because it hammers home the fact there's no reason we shouldn't be putting the money we've saved towards buying players in the other areas we need strengthening. Yeah, it should be obvios realy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Jay Sea Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Sorry but its not Dave, some people on here go on about "only signed some players on a free" in reference to the quality of our signings or squad, as if either would be better if we'd paid the market rate. Just the other day I read "we went into this window needing two strikers, and so far we've only signed one on a FREE!!", as if that makes Demba Ba any less of a quality striker People highlight free transfers not because it reduces the quality of the player, but because it hammers home the fact there's no reason we shouldn't be putting the money we've saved towards buying players in the other areas we need strengthening. Banged to rights... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Free transfers should be a bonus way to add to the squad not first choice of action, its always about free or loan, pay as little as they have too if a fee is required. As much as I understand the reasoning behind it surely that should be the way for clubs without money, if you sell a single player for £35m then using that money on transfers alone is good business too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 well done for hitting that horse-shit right out of the park Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Sorry but its not Dave, some people on here go on about "only signed some players on a free" in reference to the quality of our signings or squad, as if either would be better if we'd paid the market rate. Just the other day I read "we went into this window needing two strikers, and so far we've only signed one on a FREE!!", as if that makes Demba Ba any less of a quality striker People highlight free transfers not because it reduces the quality of the player, but because it hammers home the fact there's no reason we shouldn't be putting the money we've saved towards buying players in the other areas we need strengthening. Personally think teasy has a bit of a point, but tend to agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Couple more players coming in at least! Calm down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Couple more players coming in at least! Calm down. Source ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Couple more players coming in at least! Calm down. Source ? his arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Sorry but its not Dave, some people on here go on about "only signed some players on a free" in reference to the quality of our signings or squad, as if either would be better if we'd paid the market rate. Just the other day I read "we went into this window needing two strikers, and so far we've only signed one on a FREE!!", as if that makes Demba Ba any less of a quality striker People highlight free transfers not because it reduces the quality of the player, but because it hammers home the fact there's no reason we shouldn't be putting the money we've saved towards buying players in the other areas we need strengthening. Personally think teasy has a bit of a point, but tend to agree with this. same here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I don't think anyone really cares how much the players cost, it's just that most of us thought that the money from selling AC should be used to once and for all strengthen the squad.For the last three or four seasons we have always been a couple of injuries away from fielding a seriously weakened team, once we have 5-6 out, the team we have to select is extremely poor. We need two left backs if Enrique leaves, an upgrade at right back, another Centre-Half, somebody to cover when Tiote can't get a visa, get's suspended, goes to ACN, a right winger, if Barton leaves someone to replace him, and another forward. That's up to 8 players depending on who leaves. We have the money, the owner doesn't want to spend it, so rather than competing for a position between 5-7, which with a strengthened squad we probably could, it will be mid table mediocrity or worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I don't think anyone really cares how much the players cost, it's just that most of us thought that the money from selling AC should be used to once and for all strengthen the squad.For the last three or four seasons we have always been a couple of injuries away from fielding a seriously weakened team, once we have 5-6 out, the team we have to select is extremely poor. We need two left backs if Enrique leaves, an upgrade at right back, another Centre-Half, somebody to cover when Tiote can't get a visa, get's suspended, goes to ACN, a right winger, if Barton leaves someone to replace him, and another forward. That's up to 8 players depending on who leaves. We have the money, the owner doesn't want to spend it, so rather than competing for a position between 5-7, which with a strengthened squad we probably could, it will be mid table mediocrity or worse. I also want to bat Ellen Page's back door in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Well you should try asking her, you never know your luck might be in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Well you should try asking her, you never know your luck might be in. What you have suggested is bordering on ridiculous. We've already brought 4 in. You are suggesting another 8, 12 in total. Not only do we not have room for them, it just quite clearly was never going to happen. Managers/fans always want more players, but you should know by now how we are being ran. Its safe to say if we get another 2 in and replacement for Jose, we will have a fairly solid squad that should be competing top half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I don't think anyone really cares how much the players cost, it's just that most of us thought that the money from selling AC should be used to once and for all strengthen the squad.For the last three or four seasons we have always been a couple of injuries away from fielding a seriously weakened team, once we have 5-6 out, the team we have to select is extremely poor. We need two left backs if Enrique leaves, an upgrade at right back, another Centre-Half, somebody to cover when Tiote can't get a visa, get's suspended, goes to ACN, a right winger, if Barton leaves someone to replace him, and another forward. That's up to 8 players depending on who leaves. We have the money, the owner doesn't want to spend it, so rather than competing for a position between 5-7, which with a strengthened squad we probably could, it will be mid table mediocrity or worse. I also want to bat Ellen Page's back door in. And if Ellen Page was bent owa the night stand growling, "chuck it up me, big boy!" I've no doubt you would. With the Carroll cash Ashley and Llambias are in that position very now, but rather than knock the granny out of her they've decided to go downstairs and fiddle with the central heating. Obviously no one can expect us to buy a dozen players in one go, but we've never had a better opportunity to strengthen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I don't think anyone really cares how much the players cost, it's just that most of us thought that the money from selling AC should be used to once and for all strengthen the squad.For the last three or four seasons we have always been a couple of injuries away from fielding a seriously weakened team, once we have 5-6 out, the team we have to select is extremely poor. We need two left backs if Enrique leaves, an upgrade at right back, another Centre-Half, somebody to cover when Tiote can't get a visa, get's suspended, goes to ACN, a right winger, if Barton leaves someone to replace him, and another forward. That's up to 8 players depending on who leaves. We have the money, the owner doesn't want to spend it, so rather than competing for a position between 5-7, which with a strengthened squad we probably could, it will be mid table mediocrity or worse. I also want to bat Ellen Page's back door in. And if Ellen Page was bent owa the night stand growling, "chuck it up me, big boy!" I've no doubt you would. With the Carroll cash Ashley and Llambias are in that position very now, but rather than knock the granny out of her they've decided to go downstairs and fiddle with the central heating. Obviously no one can expect us to buy a dozen players in one go, but we've never had a better opportunity to strengthen. I agree, we all expected more, however i'd never have expected 12 new players. Even if we sign another three, thats still 7 weve brought in which is a decent amount for one window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Well considering we've pretty much got rid of the same amount of players as we've brought in, and our squad was paper thin anyways, I'd say it still is. We seem to have a whole load of midfielders and no strike force or cover in defence. Think we should maybe play 3-6-1 then we may have OK cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I don't think anyone really cares how much the players cost, it's just that most of us thought that the money from selling AC should be used to once and for all strengthen the squad.For the last three or four seasons we have always been a couple of injuries away from fielding a seriously weakened team, once we have 5-6 out, the team we have to select is extremely poor. We need two left backs if Enrique leaves, an upgrade at right back, another Centre-Half, somebody to cover when Tiote can't get a visa, get's suspended, goes to ACN, a right winger, if Barton leaves someone to replace him, and another forward. That's up to 8 players depending on who leaves. We have the money, the owner doesn't want to spend it, so rather than competing for a position between 5-7, which with a strengthened squad we probably could, it will be mid table mediocrity or worse. Aye because ever squad in the Premier League is fully stocked with two quality players in every position. Behave yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I don't think anyone really cares how much the players cost, it's just that most of us thought that the money from selling AC should be used to once and for all strengthen the squad.For the last three or four seasons we have always been a couple of injuries away from fielding a seriously weakened team, once we have 5-6 out, the team we have to select is extremely poor. We need two left backs if Enrique leaves, an upgrade at right back, another Centre-Half, somebody to cover when Tiote can't get a visa, get's suspended, goes to ACN, a right winger, if Barton leaves someone to replace him, and another forward. That's up to 8 players depending on who leaves. We have the money, the owner doesn't want to spend it, so rather than competing for a position between 5-7, which with a strengthened squad we probably could, it will be mid table mediocrity or worse. I also want to bat Ellen Page's back door in. And if Ellen Page was bent owa the night stand growling, "chuck it up me, big boy!" I've no doubt you would. With the Carroll cash Ashley and Llambias are in that position very now, but rather than knock the granny out of her they've decided to go downstairs and fiddle with the central heating. Obviously no one can expect us to buy a dozen players in one go, but we've never had a better opportunity to strengthen. I agree, we all expected more, however i'd never have expected 12 new players. Even if we sign another three, thats still 7 weve brought in which is a decent amount for one window. Considering we've got long standing issues with squad depth, we've sold two players, placed one on the transfer list for nowt and have another who wants to leave ASAP I'd say we need a minimum of three or four on top of Ba, Cabaye, Abeid and Marveaux to keep running to stand still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I don't think anyone really cares how much the players cost, it's just that most of us thought that the money from selling AC should be used to once and for all strengthen the squad.For the last three or four seasons we have always been a couple of injuries away from fielding a seriously weakened team, once we have 5-6 out, the team we have to select is extremely poor. We need two left backs if Enrique leaves, an upgrade at right back, another Centre-Half, somebody to cover when Tiote can't get a visa, get's suspended, goes to ACN, a right winger, if Barton leaves someone to replace him, and another forward. That's up to 8 players depending on who leaves. We have the money, the owner doesn't want to spend it, so rather than competing for a position between 5-7, which with a strengthened squad we probably could, it will be mid table mediocrity or worse. I also want to bat Ellen Page's back door in. And if Ellen Page was bent owa the night stand growling, "chuck it up me, big boy!" I've no doubt you would. With the Carroll cash Ashley and Llambias are in that position very now, but rather than knock the granny out of her they've decided to go downstairs and fiddle with the central heating. Obviously no one can expect us to buy a dozen players in one go, but we've never had a better opportunity to strengthen. I agree, we all expected more, however i'd never have expected 12 new players. Even if we sign another three, thats still 7 weve brought in which is a decent amount for one window. It's getting those three in which everyone is worried about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 We should strengthen the squad I think everyone can agree on that, it's lacked depth for years, and this time we know that there is enough money there to buy the players we need. Enrique will leave and will need replacing, and there is no back up unless Ferguson gets counted and as he's injured, tiny and better off playing further forward, he shouldn't be. so that's two players for a start. Campbell has left and should be replaced so we have four centre half's like everyone else. Routledge should be replaced as should Barton if he leaves. Who will cover for Tiote, well unless we buy someone it will be Smith. Up front we have one striker who might get 10 goals and that's Ba if he's not injured. Unless Best has a serious purple patch the rest of the so called strikers we have won't get 10 goals between them. So Ba's out we get Shola. Better start praying unless we do go out and buy a top class striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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