Guest Randy Savage Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Well you're right there, in that its just a theory right now. But I'd say its safe to assume Tiote and Cabaye will be fantastic players here and if Ben Arfa shows anywhere near the talent he displayed in France (and in the 3 games at NUFC), then we have a superstar. Until they're together its all speculation, but I'm pretty confident they'll delight us. A lot will depend on how he comes back from the broken leg. I'm not suggesting he was ever anywhere near as good as Ben Arfa, but Carlos Edwards was superb for us in the Championship, broke his leg and was never the same ever again. Ok, he had stepped up a level, but he looked s*** scared to run at players or go near a tackle afterwards. Cisse on other hand lost no pace whatsoever after two broken legs. F*** me, he was rapid. I recall a game vs Boro when he was running down the wing and he just kept kicking it ahead of himself and accelerating more and more as the smogs made pathetic attempts to keep up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Well you're right there, in that its just a theory right now. But I'd say its safe to assume Tiote and Cabaye will be fantastic players here and if Ben Arfa shows anywhere near the talent he displayed in France (and in the 3 games at NUFC), then we have a superstar. Until they're together its all speculation, but I'm pretty confident they'll delight us. A lot will depend on how he comes back from the broken leg. I'm not suggesting he was ever anywhere near as good as Ben Arfa, but Carlos Edwards was superb for us in the Championship, broke his leg and was never the same ever again. Ok, he had stepped up a level, but te looked s*** scared to run at players or go near a tackle afterwards. Cisse on other hand lost no pace whatsoever after two broken legs. f*** me, he was rapid. I recall ca game vs Boro when he was running down the wing and he just kept kicking it ahead of himself and accellerating more and more as the smogs made pathetic attempts to keep up, before just falling away. Ben Arfa will be fine mentally and physically when he comes back as he's had a massive tackle on the leg he'd broken and it stood up to the impact apart from being badly twisted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Cisse seemed to get stronger and faster every time he broke his leg, the fucking freak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Cisse seemed to get stronger and faster every time he broke his leg, the fucking freak Would've definitely taken him here this summer or any other summer. Massively underrated IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Cisse seemed to get stronger and faster every time he broke his leg, the f***ing freak Would've definitely taken him here this summer or any other summer. Massively underrated IMO. How old is he these days though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Cisse seemed to get stronger and faster every time he broke his leg, the f***ing freak Would've definitely taken him here this summer or any other summer. Massively underrated IMO. How old is he these days though? Only 30 been around for so long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Cisse seemed to get stronger and faster every time he broke his leg, the f***ing freak Would've definitely taken him here this summer or any other summer. Massively underrated IMO. How old is he these days though? Only 30 been around for so long Really? Thought he was ancient! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Can't wait to see this lad back now. Up for Blackburn game and hoping for a cameo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 A year to the day he made his debut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 worth turning up in blonde wigs (doris day is back in the charts@87) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mimifrench Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Definitely, you need him back and the sooner the better. I’ve watch the game against QPR and well… you need someone (like HBA) in order to link your midfield with the attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 God yes. Save us Hatem! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1240/eggsbasket.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I’ve watch the game against QPR I'm sorry you had to see that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Cannot wait until he is fit but there is an issue if we play him on the left straight away with Santon at LB, thats a very raw left side. So do we keep Jonas on the left until we are sure Santon can cope with Prem football and play HBA wide right or off the striker ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I'd try off the one striker first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Cannot wait until he is fit but there is an issue if we play him on the left straight away with Santon at LB, thats a very raw left side. So do we keep Jonas on the left until we are sure Santon can cope with Prem football and play HBA wide right or off the striker ? play him and another off a striker, those two pressurise the full backs (ben arfa does pressure well, he does work defensivly even if he's not a ball winner type), jonas tucked in left of a midfiled 3 gives him scope to read in front of him and drift left if ben arfa (or other) hasn't drifted there or look short to get the ball off the full back or come inside in any gap created by ben arfas movement and help the full back defensivly when the ball comes down that side or have the oppo full back passed on to him defensivly and have ben arfa or other pull in. very fluid, very flexible but reliant on the players reading each others movement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Pardew added that the return of French ace Hatem Ben Arfa will bolster his attacking options too. "I think you have to remember I've got Hatem Ben Arfa training now," he continued. "His imagination and flair on that pitch would have been a big asset for us - hopefully, fingers crossed, in two weeks' time he'll be on that pitch for us." http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11678_7173905,00.html Not sure when these quotes are from, but two weeks hopefully? :'( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEN BEN BEN ARFA Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 his place is in the axis in 10 saw the game yesterday, that's what they needed NUCF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Not long now, bursting with excitement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 If he stays fit and plays about 25 league games this year, I honestly think we could finish in the top 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I'm not going to get my hopes up on Ben Arfa returning and simply transforming us. It's too much to ask from one person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I'm pinning my hopes to fuck on Barfa now, tbh. I can't see Cabaye/Tiote working without him. they look like another Emre/Parker situation, both too deep. Cabaye may do well when he does go forward from time to time, but it doesn't look like that's his default way of playing, and we'll probably only suffer if we do try to shoehorn him into that advanced role. Tiote mopping up in front of the defence, onto Cabaye controlling in the centre, laying the ball off to the wings or onto Barfa to absolute rape the defence (we hope!) would be perfect. Without Barfa, or a player like Barfa, we just can't move the ball up field. To get the most out of the Tiote/Cabaye partnership, we need another central player, and just one up top imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I'm pinning my hopes to fuck on Barfa now, tbh. I can't see Cabaye/Tiote working without him. they look like another Emre/Parker situation, both too deep. Cabaye may do well when he does go forward from time to time, but it doesn't look like that's his default way of playing, and we'll probably only suffer if we do try to shoehorn him into that advanced role. Tiote mopping up in front of the defence, onto Cabaye controlling in the centre, laying the ball off to the wings or onto Barfa to absolute rape the defence (we hope!) would be perfect. Without Barfa, or a player like Barfa, we just can't move the ball up field. To get the most out of the Tiote/Cabaye partnership, we need another central player, and just one up top imo. I think Marveaux could do that for our team as well. Gosling is another option but he won't be as inventive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Marveaux's a good shout. At least 'till Barfa returns, and then he can go out and replace Obertan on the wing. Will readily admit I havn't seen much of him, but can't see Gosling in an advanced position. Like I say though, don't know much about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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