Dave Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 On Monday you said you thought Ba could easily get isolated with Ben Arfa behind him. Just wondering why you now think they'll link up well. Was it today's showing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I've thought for a while they'd link up well, just not as a pairing up top. I think Ba benefits from having a strike partner like Best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Thought Ben Arfa worked really well with Shola myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 He came on for 45 minutes and went missing for the first half hour of it, also while I realise he suffered a serious injury he needs to stop fannying out of tackles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 He came on for 45 minutes and went missing for the first half hour of it, also while I realise he suffered a serious injury he needs to stop fannying out of tackles. he can only play the 'man off' role if we have other midfilelders making moves. movement today even before he came on was non existent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 He came on for 45 minutes and went missing for the first half hour of it, also while I realise he suffered a serious injury he needs to stop fannying out of tackles. he can only play the 'man off' role if we have other midfilelders making moves. movement today even before he came on was non existent Yup. Obertan was the worst for it. For all the grief he got for when he was on the ball, I thought his movement off it was shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 He came on for 45 minutes and went missing for the first half hour of it, also while I realise he suffered a serious injury he needs to stop fannying out of tackles. I don't remember fannying out of any tackle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 He came on for 45 minutes and went missing for the first half hour of it, also while I realise he suffered a serious injury he needs to stop fannying out of tackles. I don't remember fannying out of any tackle. I can remember 3 occasions where he pulled out and let the opponents take it rather than attempting a tackle. That back heel too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rey Mysterio Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 He came on for 45 minutes and went missing for the first half hour of it, also while I realise he suffered a serious injury he needs to stop fannying out of tackles. I don't remember fannying out of any tackle. He did a few but I can't blame him. Wish he'd have fannied out 12 months ago at Eastlands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 There's gonna come a game, in the very near future, where he destroys some cunt. The nearest athlete i can liken him to is Michael Jordan, who most people on this forum won't remember or probably care about. But when this kid get's the ball, sometimes it seems like everybody else on the field is under water. He just operates on a different level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 what must be remembered if people are criticising his performance, not only is he just recovering from a horrendous injury but he's probably still adapting to the pace of the league considering he barely played last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 He needs to keep fannying out of tackles TBH, that should be a major part of his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 what must be remembered if people are criticising his performance, not only is he just recovering from a horrendous injury but he's probably still adapting to the pace of the league considering he barely played last season Didn't you see the Everton game? Adapting to the pace isn't a problem he just needs games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 what must be remembered if people are criticising his performance, not only is he just recovering from a horrendous injury but he's probably still adapting to the pace of the league considering he barely played last season Didn't you see the Everton game? Adapting to the pace isn't a problem he just needs games. and a role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Without excelling individually, we've looked much more threatening in the last 2 games since he's came on. He strikes fear in opponents and its scary to think theres better to come from him. The other players need to give him options though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Hope it all eventually comes good for him but dont think he warrants taking Best's starting place yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 He's been built up so much that people are expecting too much from him too soon. He just needs games and his sharpness will come back and I'm not in the slightest concerned. If you think what the lad has been through it's just great right now that he's running freely on the pitch at this stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 He needs to start a game and keep it simple at times; his ball retention was poor at times and we had little shape when he gave away easy possession. Better opposition would have punished us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 He came on for 45 minutes and went missing for the first half hour of it, also while I realise he suffered a serious injury he needs to stop fannying out of tackles. Utter rubbish. He created an immediate link between the midfield and attack and our shape immediately looked better after he came on. As madras has said, if he lost the ball a couple of times when dribbling, that was as much to do with the lack of movement in front of him than because he was greedy. If there's a pass on he will make it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 And then the next time he beats a couple of players and lays on a ball for a goal or takes a chance himself everyone will be like "fucking hell he's immense" Patience is a virtue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Thought he looked quite sharp yesterday actually, finds some very dangerous spaces. Of course he's going to lose the ball at times, he's a risk taker, it's also the reason why he's such a fantastic player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 It looks his agility/pace isn't completely back, which I hope is a sharpness/fitness issue rather than an uncorrectable physical issue, but he had a few nice touches and looked better towards the end of the match. I would start him against Stoke to make sure we're able to control possession. It'll be important to make sure the game's played in their half so we aren't subjected to the avalanche of crosses and throw-ins from dangerous positions. I think that's a spot on assessment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 He needs to keep fannying out of tackles TBH, that should be a major part of his game. Exactly,obviously not everything but there are certain tackles you cant win,and you having been in possession of the ball previously doesn't change that. As I said in another thread,plenty of people at the match who don't understand the game,they've either never played or can't remember it. We've been crying out for a creative player for ages,don't piss and moan at him for trying to be creative and don't expect 50/50's to be one of his strong points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherealnorthernTOON Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 The funniest thing when HBA gets the ball really is, that all our players even just stands still looking what he is going to do next much like oposition defenders are. Because they got no real clue at all and they allways seem surprised at the fact that he just pushes the ball into a space for them wich they didn't think was possible. This is also where he right now looses the ball at times. But when our players know they just has to position themself to tap it in HBA will shine through everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fumiste Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Few lines about yesterday's game on sofoot.com http://www.sofoot.com/en-attendant-le-derby-de-manchester-149086.html Newcastle / Wigan 1-0 Scorer: Cabaye (81 ') for Magpies Not much good in this game rather disappointing Magpies at St James Park. I would have expected an upturn with the return in the second half of Hatem Ben Arfa. But HBA, even with good intentions, even bringing more percussion Pardew's team, still needs more rhythm to be really decisive and make the right choices. Up to ten minutes from the end of the meeting, our love of aesthetics had in fact been filled by the cotton in the nose bloodied by Steven Taylor. Then, on one of the few centers in the drinking game, Marveaux at the far post, just came into play, offered a back pass Cabaye nickel. Like the goal of Milner at Blackburn last week, the former Lille opened the base to get the height of the side-netting Al-Habsi. Or how to save a match and make Newcastle an undefeated team, stuck to the tails of Chelsea and Man United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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