dcmk Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Routledge is no doubt a Championship player, but he is the only option we have for the moment. He has to play this game. As for Xisco, there is a reason why Hughton isn't playing him, he simply isn't good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Lovenkrands has had his entire 12-year career to prove he's a top-level player, and you lot want to give him another game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Routledge, who's infinitely a better player than anyone else we have available at RW. And Xisco, who's better than anyone we have available to partner Carroll at CF. The other options being Lovenkrands and Ranger. Short memories on here; Routledge improved us tenfold last season. The likes of Ryan Taylor made zero impact in The Championship. Xisco is a proven bell-end that has already made it clear he wants nothing to do with the club, also he hasn't played in months so i really cannot see why you would call for his inclusion in a game like this. Ranger has looked good to me in the last few games and he has a future at NUFC so I see no reason why he should be omitted for a proven mercenary in Xisco. Routledge has been abysmal in his delivery this season and every other time he's played in the Premiership for a number of clubs, he's a Championship player, always has been. A Championship player who was more effective in 5 months than Jonas was in the entire season. Is he a Championship player? As for Xisco - Ranger debate. Been done to death. You're biased, most of you are biased. There's no point trying to talk sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Routledge, who's infinitely a better player than anyone else we have available at RW. And Xisco, who's better than anyone we have available to partner Carroll at CF. The other options being Lovenkrands and Ranger. Short memories on here; Routledge improved us tenfold last season. The likes of Ryan Taylor made zero impact in The Championship. Xisco is a proven bell-end that has already made it clear he wants nothing to do with the club, also he hasn't played in months so i really cannot see why you would call for his inclusion in a game like this. Ranger has looked good to me in the last few games and he has a future at NUFC so I see no reason why he should be omitted for a proven mercenary in Xisco. Routledge has been abysmal in his delivery this season and every other time he's played in the Premiership for a number of clubs, he's a Championship player, always has been. A Championship player who was more effective in 5 months than Jonas was in the entire season. Is he a Championship player? As for Xisco - Ranger debate. Been done to death. You're biased, most of you are biased. There's no point trying to talk sense. I'm with you on giving Xisco a chance. Maybe he can become something of a saviour. However, Ranger is still developing, and has been decent. So Xisco has to play well or Ranger will be back in this team when Ameobi is out. For Lövenkrands, well he's been awful of late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Ranger is nowhere near ready but I'd still have him ahead of Lovenkrands. It's absolutely mental we're not including Xisco, even from the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Pressure on winning this has gone up with Tiote being one away from a yellow and Barton being out. Can't see us getting much from Bolton/Chelsea so it's imperative we win this. I'd go with Routledge or Nolan off Carroll, Guthrie coming in for Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Pressure on winning this has gone up with Tiote being one away from a yellow and Barton being out. Can't see us getting much from Bolton/Chelsea so it's imperative we win this. I'd go with Routledge or Nolan off Carroll, Guthrie coming in for Barton. chelsea fair enough, but bolton ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Pressure on winning this has gone up with Tiote being one away from a yellow and Barton being out. Can't see us getting much from Bolton/Chelsea so it's imperative we win this. I'd go with Routledge or Nolan off Carroll, Guthrie coming in for Barton. chelsea fair enough, but bolton ? They'll get in our faces and the two upfront will be difficult to deal with, it's winnable but will be a really tough game. They've got a good record at home and should've beaten Liverpool by all accounts too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Pressure on winning this has gone up with Tiote being one away from a yellow and Barton being out. Can't see us getting much from Bolton/Chelsea so it's imperative we win this. I'd go with Routledge or Nolan off Carroll, Guthrie coming in for Barton. chelsea fair enough, but bolton ? They'll get in our faces and the two upfront will be difficult to deal with, it's winnable but will be a really tough game. They've got a good record at home and should've beaten Liverpool by all accounts too. Bolton only lost twice this season, same as Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Pressure on winning this has gone up with Tiote being one away from a yellow and Barton being out. Can't see us getting much from Bolton/Chelsea so it's imperative we win this. I'd go with Routledge or Nolan off Carroll, Guthrie coming in for Barton. chelsea fair enough, but bolton ? They'll get in our faces and the two upfront will be difficult to deal with, it's winnable but will be a really tough game. They've got a good record at home and should've beaten Liverpool by all accounts too. yes it'll be difficuilt, i just thought you were writing it off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Nile's Twitter message makes it sound like he's starting tbh. "Bad result yesterday, but we're working hard for a good result against Fulham on saturday." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Nile's Twitter message makes it sound like he's starting tbh. "Bad result yesterday, but we're working hard for a good result against Fulham on saturday." I have no idea how you come to that conclusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Could really do with Tiote being careful while Barton's out. I'd hate to go in against Chelsea or Bolton without both of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Nile's Twitter message makes it sound like he's starting tbh. "Bad result yesterday, but we're working hard for a good result against Fulham on saturday." It makes it sound like he'll be involved somewhere in the matchday 18. Which he will be, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Nile's Twitter message makes it sound like he's starting tbh. "Bad result yesterday, but we're working hard for a good result against Fulham on saturday." I have no idea how you come to that conclusion. In hindisght I do not either. Here's a pic of him to make up for it: http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/116/14wv.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Compare and contrast the vehicle and the housing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 If Hughton starts Guthrie on the right ahead of Routledge on Saturday I will literally shake with rage. Seriously though, Hughton needs to give Routlege a pep talk to gee him up a bit. He's got a lot of ability but getting it out of him has been tricky this season. Getting players to play at 100% of their ability as often as possible is the foundation of management (or so says Arsene Wenger in a book I'm currently reading anyway.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Fulham's replacement for the injured Salcido only made his full debut last night, he's only 19. We'd be mental not to start a proper winger against him, someone quick like Routledge could really worry someone with little experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I think we'll go back to the ol' 4-5-1 for this match, with Shola out (probably?) and Nolan knackered the 4-4-2 isn't going to work I think. Given our options at CB I wish Hughton would experiment a bit; Colo at DM to lighten the load on Tiote with Sol taking over at CB, Guthrie in for Nolan and Routledge in for Barton, for a 4-2-3-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Win and we get 20 points which is great by all accounts. That means we are 5 or 6 wins away from survival. Which I assume the first goal of our season. I assume we would get that sometime around Feburary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Nile's Twitter message makes it sound like he's starting tbh. "Bad result yesterday, but we're working hard for a good result against Fulham on saturday." Doesn't sound like he wrote it. Not at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Nile's Twitter message makes it sound like he's starting tbh. "Bad result yesterday, but we're working hard for a good result against Fulham on saturday." Doesn't sound like he wrote it. Not at all. Nile disagrees. http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/1147/sjut.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Compare and contrast the vehicle and the housing. It's like when wor lass rolls up at home in her Ford Focus in Howdon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Nile's Twitter message makes it sound like he's starting tbh. "Bad result yesterday, but we're working hard for a good result against Fulham on saturday." Doesn't sound like he wrote it. Not at all. Nile disagrees. http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/1147/sjut.jpg Like anyone would fake a Nile Ranger account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 With the performances/results against Blackpool, Stoke, Wigan and Blackburn, I'm afraid I see no reason why you'll suddenly turn in a good performance here. 0-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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