NG32 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Well most here would be happy/ok and understand the lad has talent, while Afar and Stiffie dont want him here whatsoever and Brummie wants rid due to his wage and attitude tho recognises that he does have talent that could be recaptured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Someone should put a poll up to get an idea of who would be happy with him or not. I don't think anyone knows what they want, maybe we shouldn't be sexist after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Brummie, do you know how long he's supposed to be out for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Brummie, do you know how long he's supposed to be out for? No idea, sorry. I just read last week he had a knee injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Patrick Kluivert again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Patrick Kluivert again? I wish we could have signed Kluivert when he was 24. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Anyone who doesnt want Ireland (a proven quality midfielder) here on loan, with a point to prove, low risk and provides another option is f***ing mental. Other than the low risk part, that point to prove stuff is exactly what we said in the summer. He's out of his comfort zone, unfortunately, and he's not handling it well. I get the feeling it would have been like this had he gone anywhere - anywhere that isn't Man City, that's the issue. He's apparently dreadful in training, doesn't want to know. On more than one occasion, he's ruled himself out with iffy sounding illnesses - the last time it was a "virus" and the very same evening he was seen out boozing with Heskey and Ashley Young. When he came here, someone on the City staff said he was in the top 5 percent in terms of talent there, but the bottom 5 mentally. Houllier said that any loans out, the other club would have to pay all the wages, and that we'd rather players stayed in the stiffs rather than subsidise them to play somewhere else. So, five months of Ireland = 70 x 4 x 5 = 1.4m, add on NI, and you're looking at 1.6m. On top of that, there's win bonuses etc etc etc. So, whilst it could be more expensive otherwise, it certainly isn't free. It's great that Houllier said that "any loans out, the other club would have to pay all the wages", but if there's anyone who is gonna keep his wallet away till we get the right deal, it's Mike...double edge sword to be honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Patrick Kluivert again? I wish we could have signed Kluivert when he was 24. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Patrick Kluivert again? I think Bowyer would be a better example Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Thing is Villa are better off loaning him out than letting him rot, even if they are paying all the wages (not that you expect them too), as if he does perform they will get a much better price for him than they would now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pont-toon Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 reckon this one will go right down to the wire on Monday when asked about imminent signings on the radio Newcastle interview earlier this evening he said nowt imminent but is expecting things to hot up on Monday as both buying and selling clubs attempt to get "best value" he also mentioned he had been taken 2 calls today regarding players whose moves to other clubs had broken down. gonna be busy on here on Monday methinks ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 so this deal looks pretty certain now? lets do it, man! we've got a thin squad and its only a loan so this makes complete sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I don't mind him but i don't tthink we really "need" him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 so this deal looks pretty certain now? lets do it, man! we've got a thin squad and its only a loan so this makes complete sense. It could be done tonight. According to Mr Ireland senior. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 With Gosling out for the forseeaable (Pardew saying he needs an op?) we could do with at leaast one more midfielder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 With Gosling out for the forseeaable (Pardew saying he needs an op?) we could do with at leaast one more midfielder When did he say this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 With Gosling out for the forseeaable (Pardew saying he needs an op?) we could do with at leaast one more midfielder When did he say this? On the wireless tonight according to a lad doing a precis of the BBC interview on Skunkers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Patrick Kluivert again? I think Bowyer would be a better example Proved wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I think it's clear that this prick has loads of talent waiting to be unlocked. This would certainly be worth a roll of the dice. If he flops, then fuck him. I highly doubt that his presence will form a black hole in the dressing room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Recoba Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Get him in on loan with a reasonable fee to buy up front, like we did with Ben Arfa. If he is good then we win, if not cut him loose. Was he ever mates with Joey btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmoregeordie Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Get him in on loan with a reasonable fee to buy up front, like we did with Ben Arfa. If he is good then we win, if not cut him loose. Was he ever mates with Joey btw? that might actually be a strike against, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 well, if Gosling's fucked I'd change my mind on this but still.. Can anybody realistically see Ireland come here and instantly improve our attacking play after two seasons of doing nothing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 well, if Gosling's fucked I'd change my mind on this but still.. Can anybody realistically see Ireland come here and instantly improve our attacking play after two seasons of doing nothing? Who knows? If he's happy and settles in quickly we may see the Ireland from a couple of seasons ago, or the opposite. If he's a loan he's a risk worth taking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Up front we have Carroll (crocked), Ameobi, Best, Lovenkrands, Airey and Ranger, and just behind we have Nolan (at a push) and Ben Arfa (crocked). A cardboard box would improve our attacking play at the moment to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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