Guest chopey Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Is Kone that crap blonde haired striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Everton have done it for years. Lescott, Rodwell, Arteta, Fellaini...as much as Martinez is saying he's not for sale, if Man City or someone offers a daft bid for Barkley, he'll be next. But, even as Martinez concedes if they got a great offer they'd have to sell, compare how he talks about his players to what Pardew says "If I want a player I need to match the valuation to then put the other club and the player in a situation to make a decision," Martinez told the Sunday Mirror. "We have never been in a situation where the valuation has been matched with Leighton. "As a club we don't need the money. We don't need to balance the books and that is a situation we wanted to have - to make football decisions, not financial decisions. "We don't want to sell Leighton. When you are in a position when you have to bring money then are relying on what you can sell. We are not in that position. "We're not in talks with him about a deal. We don't have to say it publicly but nobody is for sale." He said: "We want to have Leighton [baines] for the long term and that will never change. Tony [Hibbert] is someone we want at the club as long as we can have him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Is Kone that crap blonde haired striker Who we wanted, aye he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 They have an owner who actually likes the club, but isn't rich enough to be able to turn down big offers. Curious if people here would want an owner with less money than Ashley but who has our interests at heart. I would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 On the plus side at least we wouldn't have to listen to Pardew try and flog him in every press conference he gives. It'll be someone else next. I am absolutely 100% convinced AP is on a bonus for % profit on transfers. I really would love to know where this daft notion came from apart from ridiculous paranoia Here's where it comes from................ AP is pretty much the worst paid manager in the top tier. MA pays all of his key staff bonuses based on performance in every single one of his businesses. It has been widely reported that MA has given AP an 'incentives' based contract - Llambias said so when he was in charge in his programme notes. Given that we know the top 4 is a pipe dream and unrealistic the next best thing is Europa league which we know the club don't want. So what is AP's target? Finish as close to, but not in, the Europa League every year and he'll get what? A sports direct mug? If MA's incentive is to tick the business over in as positive a financial state as humanly possible to attract a buyer at a premium, AP is absolutely vital in that. Which other managers would accept their best players being sold from under them and be completely complicit in it? What is the incentive for AP? Can only be financial. Call that paranoia if you wish. I'll call it reality. It's utter bunkum. We know quite a bit about Pardew and all the staff and players bonus schemes. There is absolutely sod all evidence for what you're suggesting. Except the post by the bloke who knew Pardew was being appointed even before Hughton was sacked, where he mentioned that part of Pardew's job was to keep operating costs down. Nothing, except that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 They have an owner who actually likes the club, but isn't rich enough to be able to turn down big offers. Curious if people here would want an owner with less money than Ashley but who has our interests at heart. I would. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Where does he (present tense because he is still here) rank on our all-time Frenchies list? Behind Daveed and Robert for me. A total steal at £4.3 m though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 They have an owner who actually likes the club, but isn't rich enough to be able to turn down big offers. Curious if people here would want an owner with less money than Ashley but who has our interests at heart. I would. Yup same here, don't take a filthy rich owner to spend £4m on French players that Carr finds but it takes an owner who cares about the club to keep these type of players at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Top for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Would be absolutely gutted if he left mid-season like. Filthy Qatari money. Fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 They have an owner who actually likes the club, but isn't rich enough to be able to turn down big offers. Curious if people here would want an owner with less money than Ashley but who has our interests at heart. I would. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/04/18/article-1378204-047961660000044D-458_468x300.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Except the post by the bloke who knew Pardew was being appointed even before Hughton was sacked, where he mentioned that part of Pardew's job was to keep operating costs down. Nothing, except that. I also thought that's where it had originated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Top for me Wouldn't place him above Ginola and Robert but he edges out Lionel Perez and Obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 On the plus side at least we wouldn't have to listen to Pardew try and flog him in every press conference he gives. It'll be someone else next. I am absolutely 100% convinced AP is on a bonus for % profit on transfers. I really would love to know where this daft notion came from apart from ridiculous paranoia IIRC the original ITK predicting pardew's arrival did mention a performance-based bonus relating to the financial wellbeing of the club as opposed to the performance of the side as you might expect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Is Kone that crap blonde haired striker Nah that's Fernando Torres. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 just logged in Logging out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Except the post by the bloke who knew Pardew was being appointed even before Hughton was sacked, where he mentioned that part of Pardew's job was to keep operating costs down. Nothing, except that. I also thought that's where it had originated. Hasn't someone got the quotes in their signature ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 It is so typical of us to buy a player just to sell at a profit, like we did with, well, erm... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Would be absolutely gutted if he left mid-season like. Filthy Qatari money. Fuck off. At first it was just Parky's lamentations, but I'm starting to get a bit unnerved by the pointed aggression at Arab owners in particular. As if they're any different than any other wealthy people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Anyway just saw this. Another milestone on my journey to footballing apathy. Tiote, HBA and Krul left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Cabaye appears to be the leader of our French foreign legion. If he goes that is sure to have a detrimental effect. More worried that we've been fucking shite as soon as he hasn't played. His impact on the pitch is absolutely massive, we'll struggle for the rest of the season without him IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 He was always going to leave at some point. We can't offer him champions league, or the wages he'll get there. Can anyone really blame him or the club for accepting a bid in the region of 26m. I mean seriously? I'd love him to stay, and I will be gutted, but unless we are playing in the CL he was never going to stay beyond the summer. I still personally think he will still be here at the end of this window, but leave in the summer. I hope anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Would be absolutely gutted if he left mid-season like. Filthy Qatari money. Fuck off. At first it was just Parky's lamentations, but I'm starting to get a bit unnerved by the pointed aggression at Arab owners in particular. As if they're any different than any other wealthy people. In particular? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Don't know if Cabaye is good enough for a team that wants to be winning the CL. Would think their shopping list of midfielders would be full of the best in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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