JackM Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I would be amazed if Ashley had agreed to that deal. Just doesnt make sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 You take into consideration the large signing on fee we are just about in profit even. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 No better than the tabloids. Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Well seems like he's seeing out the season. In an awful kind of way would like a convieniant but minor knee injury to hit him at end of season which will scare the other clubs into thinking he's a liability :/ Can't see us keeping him in summer, hope we keep him this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 So many facts flying around in this thread the past couple of days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I don't really believe it to be honest: We paid his agent £2 million. We gave him a clause meaning he could leave for £7million. We gave him a clause meaning that he would get £2.5 million of that £7 milion. He is on £35k a week basic with a £20k appearance fee. Doesn't sound like an Ashley deal to me. Can't believe that he would have held that much negotiating power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I don't really believe it to be honest: We paid his agent £2 million. We gave him a clause meaning he could leave for £7million. We gave him a clause meaning that he would get £2.5 million of that £7 milion. He is on £35k a week basic with a £20k appearance fee. Doesn't sound like an Ashley deal to me. Can't believe that he would have held that much negotiating power. If it is true it is deeply worrying. Will do anything not to spend money on a fucking striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Alan Pardew should 'mishear' a question at his next press conference and answer with "Yes, I believe that Chelsea want Modric and Barcelona want Bale. I hear they both want to leave Tottenham" and follow it up with "Yes, I believe tax evaders should go to prison". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I don't really believe it to be honest: We paid his agent £2 million. We gave him a clause meaning he could leave for £7million. We gave him a clause meaning that he would get £2.5 million of that £7 milion. He is on £35k a week basic with a £20k appearance fee. Doesn't sound like an Ashley deal to me. Can't believe that he would have held that much negotiating power. Why not? All profit is profit and Ba held all the cards when he moved here when he could've gone anywhere. If true and I've no idea if it is it was probably one of the key reasons he accepted the relatively low wage/performance based contract that he did. For example - http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/West-Ham-transfer-news-Demba-Ba-contract-demands-of-4million-per-year-putting-off-Everton-Sunderland-and-Newcastle-article744417.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Why would we give him £2.5m of the £7m? We're paying him £2.5m to leave us? Ashley has been pretty good with transfer in his time here, I really would be surprised if this was all true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Howay dekka. http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Newcastle-ready-to-double-Demba-Ba-wages-to-60k-a-week-to-convince-him-to-stay-at-club-article851639.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I don't really believe it to be honest: We paid his agent £2 million. We gave him a clause meaning he could leave for £7million. We gave him a clause meaning that he would get £2.5 million of that £7 milion. He is on £35k a week basic with a £20k appearance fee. Doesn't sound like an Ashley deal to me. Can't believe that he would have held that much negotiating power. Why not? All profit is profit and Ba held all the cards when he moved here when he could've gone anywhere. If true and I've no idea if it is it was probably one of the key reasons he accepted the relatively low wage/performance based contract that he did. For example - http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/West-Ham-transfer-news-Demba-Ba-contract-demands-of-4million-per-year-putting-off-Everton-Sunderland-and-Newcastle-article744417.html Don't think Ba did hold all the cards to be honest. No-one was going pay him anywhere near what he wanted with his knee - any contract he would have got in the summer would have been heavily performance related. I just don't think that we would have agreed to give him c.35% of a minimum fee release clause and pay him quite a hefty wage into the bargain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Howay dekka. http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Newcastle-ready-to-double-Demba-Ba-wages-to-60k-a-week-to-convince-him-to-stay-at-club-article851639.html Newcastle have a rigid salary cap, but owner Mike Ashley may have to make an exception for the 26-year-old to avoid a backlash from fans. Not going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I don't really believe it to be honest: We paid his agent £2 million. We gave him a clause meaning he could leave for £7million. We gave him a clause meaning that he would get £2.5 million of that £7 milion. He is on £35k a week basic with a £20k appearance fee. Doesn't sound like an Ashley deal to me. Can't believe that he would have held that much negotiating power. Why not? All profit is profit and Ba held all the cards when he moved here when he could've gone anywhere. If true and I've no idea if it is it was probably one of the key reasons he accepted the relatively low wage/performance based contract that he did. For example - http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/West-Ham-transfer-news-Demba-Ba-contract-demands-of-4million-per-year-putting-off-Everton-Sunderland-and-Newcastle-article744417.html Don't think Ba did hold all the cards to be honest. No-one was going pay him anywhere near what he wanted with his knee - any contract he would have got in the summer would have been heavily performance related. I just don't think that we would have agreed to give him c.35% of a minimum fee release clause and pay him quite a hefty wage into the bargain. But we probably weren't expecting him to be one of the leagues best players at the same time so though it'd be a fair gamble and then like a lot of the other players renegotiate the contract if he does better than expected. Like we did with Tiote last season. Plus it's rare that this sort of stuff becomes public domain, loads of players probably have all sorts of shit in their contracts that we don't know about. Plus Ba has proved himself already to be decent at getting what he wants in terms of moves/contracts etc. Anyhoo, lets hope it's all smoke and he's still here on 1st Feb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Howay dekka. http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Newcastle-ready-to-double-Demba-Ba-wages-to-60k-a-week-to-convince-him-to-stay-at-club-article851639.html Newcastle have a rigid salary cap, but owner Mike Ashley may have to make an exception for the 26-year-old to avoid a backlash from fans. Not going to happen. 'we tried but it's difficult when the top sides come in. They are being bankrolled by sovereign states and we are not at that level yet' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Howay dekka. http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Newcastle-ready-to-double-Demba-Ba-wages-to-60k-a-week-to-convince-him-to-stay-at-club-article851639.html Newcastle have a rigid salary cap, but owner Mike Ashley may have to make an exception for the 26-year-old to avoid a backlash from fans. Not going to happen. 'we tried but it's difficult when the top sides come in. They are being bankrolled byva sovereign state and we are not at that level yet' 'But we can compete on the pitch, where we intend to. The capital that this has freed up will enable us to secure Lovenkrands down to a new long term deal' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I like how they always seem to mention Manchester City when discussing transfer fees and wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Nah, the Everton ITK's tell us he's on £75k a week garenteed, he'd be playing for them otherwise. £150k is probably a bit steep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I don't think he'll go until the summer, but it's going to be tedious as fuck getting this shit every day until the end of January. And worrying about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Yup. Will probably finish off his business and depart in the summer window, as sad as it is. ACoN might just work to our advantage this window. Barring of course any new contract offer which the club will find far too risky. No chance will he get off the performance incentivised contract onto anything big and long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Yup. Will probably finish off his business and depart in the summer window, as sad as it is. ACoN might just work to our advantage this window. Barring of course any new contract offer which the club will find far too risky. No chance will he get off the performance incentivised contract onto anything big and long term. The ACN is definitely a blessing for you (other than the fact he's not playing for you, obv), as it makes it less likely he'll be moving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Since I think most if us in here are already resigned to losing him in the summer, I wonder what excuse Dekka will come out with for not having a replacement lined up when he does go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Doubt any teams going to sign him without a medical. And they cant give him a medical with him in africa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I'm clinging on to the hope that Ashley's greed will work in our favour this time. If he does nothing then he'll miss out on a cracking player for a pittance. Offer him a new deal, bin the clause and keep him. When the offers come in he can be in a position of strength to negotiate the best deal possible. Then again the best deal possible for us is a moot point. Very little, if any, of the cash will go back into buying a replacement. Much rather just keep the player but can't see him being in black and white for much longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Since I think most if us in here are already resigned to losing him in the summer, I wonder what excuse Dekka will come out with for not having a replacement lined up when he does go. He doesn't need an excuse, it's very hard finding the right forward, it's not just about their ability but we also have to make sure they are right for the club. They aren't going to be rushed into a panic buy, if it takes 4 transfer windows to come close to a striker that's what it will have to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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