Ikon Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Last thing we need is this shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer . Edit: Well, this makes absolutely no sense at the top of a new page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Except he's got a contractual obligation. Yeah, no doubt. He's honoring his contract by coming to the games and training. So we can leave it here, and wonder if we're getting 100 percent from a guy that wants to leave when we can't afford to wonder that, or we can thank him for the years and get the best deal and move on. No need to hate, no feeling betrayed. Just a stoic acceptance that our passion is a business. What he's asking for is nowhere close to the best financial deal for both parties. That's probably why he's still here (<- not sarcasm, or passive aggressive. Looks dickish.). Get a replacement in and sort it out before the end of the window, or get a replacement in and use him when you have to. I get it, but it just goes along with how far pro sports are removed from the real world. Employees running the show. Can't ask an athlete to have any loyalty when he knows that the second he loses too many steps he's out on his ass. Get the best deal you can get for yourself, and the hell with the rest. No loyalty coming from the top, why have any loyalty for them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Except he's got a contractual obligation. Yeah, no doubt. He's honoring his contract by coming to the games and training. So we can leave it here, and wonder if we're getting 100 percent from a guy that wants to leave when we can't afford to wonder that, or we can thank him for the years and get the best deal and move on. No need to hate, no feeling betrayed. Just a stoic acceptance that our passion is a business. What he's asking for is nowhere close to the best financial deal for both parties. That's probably why he's still here (<- not sarcasm, or passive aggressive. Looks dickish.). Get a replacement in and sort it out before the end of the window, or get a replacement in and use him when you have to. I get it, but it just goes along with how far pro sports are removed from the real world. Employees running the show. Can't ask an athlete to have any loyalty when he knows that the second he loses too many steps he's out on his ass. Get the best deal you can get for yourself, and the hell with the rest. No loyalty coming from the top, why have any loyalty for them? I'd agree loyalty from either side shouldn't be expected, but living up to your agreements should be expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Except he's got a contractual obligation. Yeah, no doubt. He's honoring his contract by coming to the games and training. So we can leave it here, and wonder if we're getting 100 percent from a guy that wants to leave when we can't afford to wonder that, or we can thank him for the years and get the best deal and move on. No need to hate, no feeling betrayed. Just a stoic acceptance that our passion is a business. What he's asking for is nowhere close to the best financial deal for both parties. That's probably why he's still here (<- not sarcasm, or passive aggressive. Looks dickish.). Get a replacement in and sort it out before the end of the window, or get a replacement in and use him when you have to. I get it, but it just goes along with how far pro sports are removed from the real world. Employees running the show. Can't ask an athlete to have any loyalty when he knows that the second he loses too many steps he's out on his ass. Get the best deal you can get for yourself, and the hell with the rest. No loyalty coming from the top, why have any loyalty for them? I'd agree loyalty from either side shouldn't be expected, but living up to your agreements should be expected. I hear what you're saying, I just feel like he's doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 The only loyal people in sports are the fans, and naturally we get fucked with the most of anyone.. I just hope Colo stays, he would have been the last person I would have expected to leave us at a time like this... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 The only loyal people in sports are the fans, and naturally we get fucked with the most of anyone.. I just hope Colo stays, he would have been the last person I would have expected to leave us at a time like this... :lol: that avatar. Perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 The only loyal people in sports are the fans, and naturally we get f***ed with the most of anyone.. I just hope Colo stays, he would have been the last person I would have expected to leave us at a time like this... :lol: that avatar. Perfect. haha, wish it was zoomed in a bit more the look on his face is priceless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Byker Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer . Dear God, man. http://i49.tinypic.com/2rqng44.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 So thats what Paul McGrath looks like these days.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparta Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer soccer . Dear God, man. http://i49.tinypic.com/2rqng44.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Mike, wrong, absolutely wrong. No one would blame him to jump if we relegated, but he, as a captain, deserve to be burnt to death for jumping ship during our relegation fight. I will lose all my respect on him if there is no wife illness etc. He is a captain, f***ing hell. I just can't do it. He's made it clear well before the end of the window he doesn't want to be a part of this again. So it's the responsibility of the club to bring in a suitable replacement. Honestly, whenever he made it clear that he wanted out (assuming we go down) he would catch s*** for it. Captain or not, his heart isn't in the fight and he wants out. I respect him for being semi honest about it. I don't care if he stays in San Lorenzo for four months and then comes back to Europe. He didn't betray us. Any player coming into the club this month know what they're in for over the next five months and what's expected of them, so we have an opportunity to move forward with players that are up for the fight, rather then hoping for occasional moments of pure class from a man that just doesn't seem to want to go through it again. Getting paid very handsomely at the same time also. If the rumours are true and his wife is not ill even more so. He signed a fat new contract last year and wanting to bale on us at this time of year when we are very close to being relegated is nothing short of being totally disrespectful to the fans and club he claims to love. If Lorenzo want him make them pay his worth or tell them and him to fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 People very comfortable to jump on the bandwagon that he's eager to pull his kids away from school, their friends, the academy and take them (and his wife who by all accounts is very settled here) to a country they've never known just so he can have a massive pay cut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 People very comfortable to jump on the bandwagon that he's eager to pull his kids away from school, their friends, the academy and take them (and his wife who by all accounts is very settled here) to a country they've never known just so he can have a massive pay cut. I would love to know how much influence his old man is having on this situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 He turns 31 tomorrow. Who lets their father talk for them at that age? Ridiculous. http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT9ULnDBcBfMgn3ScPurlVjHBnSoFKoplxqvKKJwB7DXuMr-20GX2SvjiRhgw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Its Simple!! "NO, You are under contract here they are not willing to pay a fee for you until they are you will remain here" End of the matter! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Lost all my respect for him. Great footballer but not fit to wear the shirt or the armband. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Lost all my respect for him. Great footballer but not fit to wear the shirt or the armband. If this comes to pass then, yeah, I agree. Let's see what happens today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I don't think he should remain captain even if he stays tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 If his motives for leaving are sinister and he's practically jumping ship - I'll be f***ing gutted. I absolutely love the player, would be a crying shame....lose a ton of respect for him as well. I don't blame the guy. I can't. He stayed the first time, I can't expect him to stay again. why ? he's paid bloody well to play football, it's not really a big thing to have to do it at a lower level for many thousands of pounds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Except he's got a contractual obligation. Yeah, no doubt. He's honoring his contract by coming to the games and training. So we can leave it here, and wonder if we're getting 100 percent from a guy that wants to leave when we can't afford to wonder that, or we can thank him for the years and get the best deal and move on. No need to hate, no feeling betrayed. Just a stoic acceptance that our passion is a business. What he's asking for is nowhere close to the best financial deal for both parties. That's probably why he's still here (<- not sarcasm, or passive aggressive. Looks dickish.). Get a replacement in and sort it out before the end of the window, or get a replacement in and use him when you have to. I get it, but it just goes along with how far pro sports are removed from the real world. Employees running the show. Can't ask an athlete to have any loyalty when he knows that the second he loses too many steps he's out on his ass. Get the best deal you can get for yourself, and the hell with the rest. No loyalty coming from the top, why have any loyalty for them? cos he signed a contract saying that he would and if he turns crap we still have to pay him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Mike, wrong, absolutely wrong. No one would blame him to jump if we relegated, but he, as a captain, deserve to be burnt to death for jumping ship during our relegation fight. I will lose all my respect on him if there is no wife illness etc. He is a captain, f***ing hell. I just can't do it. He's made it clear well before the end of the window he doesn't want to be a part of this again. So it's the responsibility of the club to bring in a suitable replacement. Honestly, whenever he made it clear that he wanted out (assuming we go down) he would catch s*** for it. Captain or not, his heart isn't in the fight and he wants out. I respect him for being semi honest about it. I don't care if he stays in San Lorenzo for four months and then comes back to Europe. He didn't betray us. Any player coming into the club this month know what they're in for over the next five months and what's expected of them, so we have an opportunity to move forward with players that are up for the fight, rather then hoping for occasional moments of pure class from a man that just doesn't seem to want to go through it again. part of what again, he's a very well paid footballer, he's not going to afghanistan or syria. if it's that bad, retire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 No way should we let him go, not now or in the summer, the only way is if they pay what he is worth. Still this makes him feel like a twat. Why the hell would he sign a contract extension and then just do this? Makes no sense at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Sick of this. The way they're looking at demanding we give up one of our best assets is laughable. Mike and Derek should have laughed them out of the meeting ages ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 So if he is to go this window and Mbiwa coming in, does anyone think we would bring another centre Half in, or would that be a big ask considering we need a Striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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