bowlingcrofty Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Carlos aint even in the squad. Generally crap for Argentina. Bocanegra is American, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 The last thing we want is him playing for Argentina... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Laughable that Colo isn't in the Argentina squad. And it's a bit confusing that Jonas is in there, when it should be the other way round. I guess they fancy Spiderman quite a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 The last thing we want is him playing for Argentina... I agree. Still doesn't stop it being an injustice on his behalf, he definitely deserves it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 The last thing we want is him playing for Argentina... I agree. Still doesn't stop it being an injustice on his behalf, he definitely deserves it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Cool story (going by wiki); he now has more games for us than he had for Deportivo (111 vs 105). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Part of the reason Jose left was because he wasn't in the Spanish squad. Obviously the circumstances are very different, but I think it would be good for us if he was in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 He deserves an international recall but from a NUFC point of view i hope he doesn't get one. With our lack of numbers at the back, its more beneficial for him to get his feet up and rest for a week or so than go half way round the world to play for Argentina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I hope that he does get a recall for Argentina, he deserves it and I think it would be really good for him to get the recognition for the way that he's playing for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 It is a curious thing that Jonas has remained in the squad after relegation but Colo was dropped. I have looked at the Argentina squad and can't see a reason for him not to be included. Agree that it is for the best that he rests during International breaks; but, on the other hand, it could give his confidence a further boost and aid his training to playat that level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I hope that he does get a recall for Argentina, he deserves it and I think it would be really good for him to get the recognition for the way that he's playing for us. International call-ups always come with the fear of exhaustion/injury, especially when such distances are involved, but I couldn't begrudge Colo a return to the squad. Amazed it hasn't happened already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 International call-ups always come with the fear of exhaustion/injury, especially when such distances are involved, but I couldn't begrudge Colo a return to the squad. Amazed it hasn't happened already. My biggest problem with Bobby was his treatment of Solano when he wanted to play for Peru. All players should be able to play international football if that is what they want to do. It's up to the clubs to make sure that they have adequate cover for players who can get injured at any time. It’s also good for the club that we have players who are seen to be the best players for the country they represent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Agree with all of that, although I would surely be saying different if we began noticing blips in player performances after international games or if players started getting injured/needing rests because of them. No evidence of that recently though with those who have been involved with their national sides, so long may it continue. It's not like we have a particularly crowded schedule these days either, which is one defence I could potentially make for Bobby given we were regularly competing in Europe under him. Coloccini will hopefully get a chance again, along with the likes of Best who I can't believe is out of the Ireland picture given his form so far this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 International call-ups always come with the fear of exhaustion/injury, especially when such distances are involved, but I couldn't begrudge Colo a return to the squad. Amazed it hasn't happened already. My biggest problem with Bobby was his treatment of Solano when he wanted to play for Peru. All players should be able to play international football if that is what they want to do. It's up to the clubs to make sure that they have adequate cover for players who can get injured at any time. It’s also good for the club that we have players who are seen to be the best players for the country they represent. Solano didn't have the legs or the lungs to play an extra 5-10 games per season. Not to mention the travel. Bobby should have made him choose in 2002. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Didn't Solano retire then change his mind, and that was what annoyed SBR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Solano didn't have the legs or the lungs to play an extra 5-10 games per season. Not to mention the travel. Bobby should have made him choose in 2002. The number of games that he played in suggests that he did have the legs and lungs. His worst season for domestic games from joining Newcastle the first time to leaving the last time was 30 games. And he played up to 52 domestic games one season which is probably as many as any of our players during that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Sorry if this is a Giggs; but, who is ahead of him in the Argie squad? Demichelis, Zabaleta, Burdisso, Rojo, Otamendi, Pareja, Fernandez, Insua are the current squad picks for the first 2014 qualifiers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Argies want to usher in a new generation of defenders allegedly. dunno why they're picking the likes of demichelis ahead of him though. was just thinking, is there a team in britain where colo wouldn't walk straight into the first XI? Would be a clear starter for man utd, city, arsenal, liverpool, spurs imo. At Chelsea I think he's now individually better than Terry (who is past his peak) and Luiz (erratic and not yet at his peak) but then Terry is the captain and i'm not sure the universe is ready for Luiz and Colo together... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I dunno about Man U, I'd probably have Vidic and Jones as definate starters, though Ferdinand is likely to be prefered. Probably Man City but dunno, their defenders look sometimes great, sometimes laughable. If he was at Arsenal he'd probably restore their title challenge lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Argies want to usher in a new generation of defenders allegedly. dunno why they're picking the likes of demichelis ahead of him though. was just thinking, is there a team in britain where colo wouldn't walk straight into the first XI? Would be a clear starter for man utd, city, arsenal, liverpool, spurs imo. At Chelsea I think he's now individually better than Terry (who is past his peak) and Luiz (erratic and not yet at his peak) but then Terry is the captain and i'm not sure the universe is ready for Luiz and Colo together... Let's hope that most clubs share Alan Brazil's opinion when he said on his show the other day that he doesn't rate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 It's really annoying how people still think he's shit tbh. I feel like a right divvy when I try and tell people I think he's a CL level player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I don't, everyone at work laughed at me when I put him in my fantasy football, now I'm the one laughing . Also I put in Krul and they (two of them teamed up to build a squad to challenge mine) put in Begovic, only consolation when Sunderland thrashed Stoke! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I dunno about Man U, I'd probably have Vidic and Jones as definate starters, though Ferdinand is likely to be prefered. Probably Man City but dunno, their defenders look sometimes great, sometimes laughable. If he was at Arsenal he'd probably restore their title challenge lol At Man Utd it would be Vidic-Coloccini, at City Kompany-Coloccini. Ferdinand's ravaged by injuries and has lost his pace. Some shocking defending from him, and also Jones vs the swiss. Jones looks an immense talent but he's a few years off maturity and so far looks better in midfield. even Evans has been preferred to Smalling and Jones for the central spot a few times this season. And no one in the world can tell me Joleon Lescott is a superior defender. Don't get me wrong Colo has his weaknesses that need to be accounted for but so do all centre-halves, Vidic frequently makes mistakes due to his high risk style of play, for instance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Colo getting a call-up would be great news for us tbh. He's still got plenty left in the tank, and i fear he's gonna start wondering whether or not he can make the Argie team again whilst at our club. If he seeks a move for that reason (ie, having overcome the obstacles of being dicked around by owners), it'd be tragic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Colo getting a call-up would be great news for us tbh. He's still got plenty left in the tank, and i fear he's gonna start wondering whether or not he can make the Argie team again whilst at our club. If he seeks a move for that reason (ie, having overcome the obstacles of being dicked around by owners), it'd be tragic. Jonas plays for us and is a regualr squad member though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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