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Ive listed all the awful things that Ashley has introduced and its still not registering.

 

Ive even asked them what is "your" final straw and never get an answer, i dont think they have.  They just say "keep things as it is and hope for a buyer".  YAY Lets give ashley an easy time.  Its like perhistoric peoples not wanting to anger the thunder gods.

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Im on the brink of just walking away from this altogether.  Been arguing all morning with people on facebook about whats happening.  ive almost messaged them back saying you have the club you deserve, enjoy the championship.

 

Dont upset ashley

he wont leave anyway

what will relegation achieve

This is what i do on weekends

I want my son to enjoy it (erm enjoy what?)

Protests haven't worked

Protestors can stamp their feet all they want

 

 

ffs

 

Its not nufc anymore.

 

Where has this attitude developed from? It seems like we have this complete new breed of plastic, delusional fan. Before the Ashley reign (and even in the first season and a half- see Allardyce protests, KK resignation etc.) this type of attitude never existed- in fact it was very much the opposite.

 

But now the support we have created somehow is just the most repulsive I have ever seen. Complete idiots who lap up every word of propaganda that the club spins, people who have an absolutely horrendous understanding of football (see their backing of Pardew)....it's like we have fully grown men who are supporting this club with the attitude of a (football) love-sick child; they can't and won't say a bad word about the club, no matter how disgraceful the clubs actions are.

 

Along with the way the club is run, this new generation of supporters have equally forced me to become totally disillusioned with Newcastle United. They're a disgrace to the traditions of NUFC.

 

I hate to use the phrase as it's dripping with irony but could they not be the first generation of glory hunters? A group of people who had the team been in the second division wouldn't have bothered but almost a lifetime of being in the premier league attracts people who just see it as a day out on the piss?

 

edit: either that or they're just genuinely thick as shite

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f*** them. It's emotional blackmail. Absolutely nothing will change if our fanbase show they can be bought off by being told that "it's your club" and that they need us, despite the fact that all the available evidence points to it being anything but. It's not our club when they sell our best players, rename the stadium, allow loan sharks to sponsor the shirt, aim to get knocked out of competitions we'd all quite like to win. They didn't need our support when they disbanded the singing section and turned the stadium into a morgue, or when they decided to charge fans £15 for membership.

 

If anything the way the club has conducted itself the past couple of days has strengthened my resolve. I owe this basket case of a football team absolutely nothing. I've thrown good money after bad following Mike Ashley's Newcastle United around the country. If they go down it's not because of me, or the other 52,000 idiots that turn up week in week out. It's because of the owner, the board, the manager and the players.

 

It's their mess, why the f*** should I feel some sort of obligation to at least try to bail them out?

 

Spot on. :thup:

 

problem is - supporting the squad = supporting Ashley = nothing will change

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People get themselves entrenched in Facebook "banter" pages and can't bear to admit they're not happy with the club because that would mean losing face against mackems on the internet they've never met.

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Does anyone actually listen to Total Sport regularly by the way? What a shambles, makes me really angry :lol:

About 10 to 15 minutes of it every night on the drive home, most of which is taken up by the 6 o clock news and weather forecast!!

 

 

I do. Mind I like being punched in the bollocks whilst wearing a gimp suit so go figure.

 

I normally sit in the car for a few hours and listen to it, tends to get me away from the wife.

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It stems from the general predicament of a football fan really, the idea that we should support our club through thick and thin. This is easily corrupted and confused when confronted with a situation where a club doesn't try. There's really not much of a precedent for it.

 

Especially for those people who don't follow the detail of the running of the club, it can easily seem like we're just going through a bad patch that the fans should endure.

 

Spot on. The amount of people who criticise our fans without realising this. We are breaking new ground here surely.

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For all I think the whole situation and this cringe-worthy open letter is a shambles, I do agree with it's sentiment and I don't get why people would want us to get relegated. The team is going to need massive support in the home games to give us even a hope of staying up. They don't deserve it, Mike doesn't deserve the record tv money but absolutely no situation will be better if when we go down.

 

 

How will it be better is we stay up?

 

I guess my perspective is based entirely on hope rather than expectation but surely the likelihood for Ashley finding a buying for a club with a £250m personal debt owed to him will be far more likely if we're a Premier League club? Is it even possible anyone would be crazy enough to buy us in that situation if we're stuck in the Championship or potentially worse?

 

Does anyone really want to be watching us in the Championship also? It worked wonders for us last time and I enjoyed it but that was probably exclusively because we won almost every game. There's no guarantee we'd come back up first time or even how bad it could be for us if we go down.

 

We're already being widely ridiculed as a club from top to bottom, getting relegated is only going to make us look like bigger bellends for everyone to scoff at. For me if we stay up there's still hope things could be fixed, I don't see how going down would solve anything.

The debt is £250m? Since when? 

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For all I think the whole situation and this cringe-worthy open letter is a shambles, I do agree with it's sentiment and I don't get why people would want us to get relegated. The team is going to need massive support in the home games to give us even a hope of staying up. They don't deserve it, Mike doesn't deserve the record tv money but absolutely no situation will be better if when we go down.

 

 

How will it be better is we stay up?

 

I guess my perspective is based entirely on hope rather than expectation but surely the likelihood for Ashley finding a buying for a club with a £250m personal debt owed to him will be far more likely if we're a Premier League club? Is it even possible anyone would be crazy enough to buy us in that situation if we're stuck in the Championship or potentially worse?

 

Does anyone really want to be watching us in the Championship also? It worked wonders for us last time and I enjoyed it but that was probably exclusively because we won almost every game. There's no guarantee we'd come back up first time or even how bad it could be for us if we go down.

 

We're already being widely ridiculed as a club from top to bottom, getting relegated is only going to make us look like bigger bellends for everyone to scoff at. For me if we stay up there's still hope things could be fixed, I don't see how going down would solve anything.

The debt is £250m? Since when? 

 

It's what the media say because they always include the purchase price.

 

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