Stuy_O Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I'd honestly ease him into the Left wing next season, playing in front of Haidara. Think he is a similar mold to Bale and look how well pushing him further forward turned (I'm in no way saying he's anyway near Bales level just his situation is similar). Since we have so few wide men I think it would be the best option, then if 12 months down the line there's no signs of improvement then maybe get rid if the price is right! God Almighty. Really don't see what's so ridiculous. His attacking is better than his defense, therefore play him in a more attacking position? At least give him a run out there on pre-season. Happens all the time in football! What happens all the time on here is people forget the philosophy that made us an established PL contender in the first place and allow themselves to be easily led by Alan Pardew. Defenders on the wing, shithouses like Alsoran on the wing, 2 CMs who're about as dangerous as bubble bath in the final third. Urgh. Get out. You people. He's only saying try it for a few games in friendlies, not exactly adhering to the entire Pardew mindset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 No he isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I'd honestly ease him into the Left wing next season, playing in front of Haidara. Think he is a similar mold to Bale and look how well pushing him further forward turned (I'm in no way saying he's anyway near Bales level just his situation is similar). Since we have so few wide men I think it would be the best option, then if 12 months down the line there's no signs of improvement then maybe get rid if the price is right! God Almighty. Really don't see what's so ridiculous. His attacking is better than his defense, therefore play him in a more attacking position? At least give him a run out there on pre-season. Happens all the time in football! What happens all the time on here is people forget the philosophy that made us an established PL contender in the first place and allow themselves to be easily led by Alan Pardew. Defenders on the wing, shithouses like Alsoran on the wing, 2 CMs who're about as dangerous as bubble bath in the final third. Urgh. Get out. You people. Yeah changing a players position to fit their attributes or balance the side is a "Pardew mind set", I'm sure your Mourinho's and Fergie's would do that your right.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 If we want a player who'll run into blind alleys all day long and hit 4 decent crosses a season on the wing we might as well bring back Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 If we want a player who'll run into blind alleys all day long and hit 4 decent crosses a season on the wing we might as well bring back Jonas. Oh he'll be back. Will probably start the season in the first team. No doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I said last summer that Santon is a hopeless defender and that the best he's going to be for us is a Jonas style midfielder, people didn't like it. I don't really think the midfielder thing is worth it if there are clubs willing to pay money for him, but he's a horrible LB, he hasn't got the mental game and never will IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 He's a DM for me. The stats agree so fuck your naked eye and common sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 He's not a hopeless defender or a horrible LB man, way OTT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Totally OTT. He's actually okay one on one, needs good coaching. (Our coaching staff are fat and unqualified and have a generally low standard of personal hygiene) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 He's just not a left back. Should be converted to right back. His career is being destroyed by trying to play him at left back. He just becomes Jonas as soon as he gets in the opposition half. Wide players should be played on their natural sides, with the sole exception of auxiliary forwards supporting a lone striker. Right back for Santon, but he started as a right winger so maybe he could play there too. Not suggesting he'd immediately start pulling up trees at right back because he needs time to settle into it and re-learn that role, but we simply cannot play him on the left as he'll never improve one bit there and offers nothing at all going forward, which is half of a modern fullback's game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Changing him to right back might solve the issue of him using his preferred foot but I highly doubt it's going to solve the fundamental flaws he has in his game, positioning, tackling, and end product when he is forward. He's a dud IMO, never looked overly impressive even in his best patches of form, Haidara should be first choice from what I've seen, Dummett is turboshit aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 The bloke has one goal in his career. Aye stick him on the wing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 He's got a good first touch and decent technique. He's canny, but let's not go overboard either way. Why do players have to either be a worldy or utter shite? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 The bloke has one goal in his career. Aye stick him on the wing Probably cos he's played at left back mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 The bloke has one goal in his career. Aye stick him on the wing Probably cos he's played at left back mate http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZWQ3YOMtJaM/UEsnJKgjdkI/AAAAAAAACo0/miO-N7XEaFA/s320/black-kid-oh-snap.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 The lad is talented but also flawed as his head drops too quickly. He needs to work on his defensive game and first and foremost and stop doing them trademark trailing leg attempts at tackling as opposition players go past him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 On the plus side he's not Paul Dummett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 He's got a good first touch and decent technique. He's canny, but let's not go overboard either way. Why do players have to either be a worldy or utter shite? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Anyway, why would it even matter if the forum did come to one conclusion or another? I fully expect him to be sidelined and escape-goated like HBA and Marveaux in the coming season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 He's just not a left back. Should be converted to right back. His career is being destroyed by trying to play him at left back. He just becomes Jonas as soon as he gets in the opposition half. Wide players should be played on their natural sides, with the sole exception of auxiliary forwards supporting a lone striker. Right back for Santon, but he started as a right winger so maybe he could play there too. Not suggesting he'd immediately start pulling up trees at right back because he needs time to settle into it and re-learn that role, but we simply cannot play him on the left as he'll never improve one bit there and offers nothing at all going forward, which is half of a modern fullback's game. This, pretty much. He's technically a very good player, but without being able to go outside the defender we lose half of our threat from wide left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 He's got a good first touch and decent technique. He's canny, but let's not go overboard either way. Why do players have to either be a worldy or utter s****? Exactly,he's an average player in an average team. Simple as. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 So The Mag one day have a go at our club for the Cabella underbidding, then run a story about a club underbidding for one of our players with a load of supposition about whether it means Colback, Haidara or Dummett left back? I know they're right to have an agenda but at least be consistent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 "He's not a left back" Ugh. You people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I must say I'm frustrated with his lack of progress since arriving to be honest, and wouldn't be bothered if we shifted him. That being said, I don't particularly blame the lack of progress solely on him. We hardly offer a decent foundation for any player to improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Everybody's a left back under Pardew. Everyone. Even Messi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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