Guest neesy111 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 When we last got promoted under Hughton, our incoming transfers that summer were: - Dan Gosling (free) - James Perch (£3m?) - Sol Campbell (free) - Cheik Tiote (£4m?) - Hatem Ben Arfa (Loan) That was in addition to January signings previously that year of: - Danny Simpson(£750,000) - Mike Williamson (£2m) - Wayne Routledge () - Leon Best (£1.5m) The 09/10 side were far better than last seasons lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 When we last got promoted under Hughton, our incoming transfers that summer were: - Dan Gosling (free) - James Perch (£3m?) - Sol Campbell (free) - Cheik Tiote (£4m?) - Hatem Ben Arfa (Loan) That was in addition to January signings previously that year of: - Danny Simpson(£750,000) - Mike Williamson (£2m) - Wayne Routledge () - Leon Best (£1.5m) The 09/10 side were far better than last seasons lot. Totally different makeup to the two teams imo. But yes, I think as a whole it was better, or at least far more effective in the way it played! A lot more direct, but with Carroll, Nolan, Barton that was a dream tbf. Easy to forget we played a lot of games in that promotion season with Smith-Butt as a CM pairing- and we walked it. That's frightening! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Krul Simpson Williamson Coloccini Enrique Ben Arfa Barton Tiote Gutierrez Nolan Carroll Best team from 10/11? Elliot Yedlin Lejeune Clark Dummett Ritchie Shelvey Hayden Atsu Perez Gayle Best team today? Probably weaker now than in 8-10 places man-for-man when considering the abilities of that team at the time, we've also got less experience and general know how but a better manager and more professional coaching setup. Think the only ones up for debate are Yedlin/Simpson, Lejeune/Williamson and Shelvey/Barton at the current time. Contextually the league is possibly better now than it was then, although that's a hard thing to quantify. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 That midfield is far more balanced than we've had. We have some decent options at the minute though if all goes well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 IMO our defence is better and will be more organised under Rafa. Our current attack looks weaker in so much that Nolan and Carroll had a great understanding and we had Hatem frightening defences across the land. The first 5 games will be key in setting up the belief and confidence of the current side. We are still a Tier One striker and CM short. Probably get away with the left back thing for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 IMO our defence is better and will be more organised under Rafa. Our current attack looks weaker in so much that Nolan and Carroll had a great understanding and we had Hatem frightening defences across the land. The first 5 games will be key in setting up the belief and confidence of the current side. We are still a Tier One striker and CM short. Probably get away with the left back thing for a while. Didn't Ben Arfa get his leg snapped after his third game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 All anyone has to do is remind themselves that whoever the manager happens to be is meaningless . Imagine you have the best car in the world but the driver wants to crash it every now and then ... same with Ashley ; it doesn't matter that we've got Benitez in charge ...it wouldn't fucking matter if we had Jesus in charge ...Ashley will not allow this club to be successful , he's making too much money out of it already to bother fucking with a winning formula ...every season 50 000 muppets turn up and make him richer ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Ben Arfa barely kicked a ball. Carroll was only there half a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Krul was backup, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 He's a liar and always has been. And some people on here were actually "happy" with the sound bites coming out of the club in the aftermath of the Preston win. I believe even Rafa has been mugged. So sad for someone who clearly feels deeply for this club, even though he's only been here for a relatively short time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 He's a liar and always has been. And some people on here were actually "happy" with the sound bites coming out of the club in the aftermath of the Preston win. I believe even Rafa has been mugged. So sad for someone who clearly feels deeply for this club, even though he's only been here for a relatively short time. It's the art of deception, people will believe stuff being said when everything is good. I'll admit Ashley is very good at it. The timing of this is damn right disgraceful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Krul was backup, too. Played more than Harper that season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Ben Arfa barely kicked a ball. Carroll was only there half a season. This is right, of course, but any of our proposed strongest XI for this season could get crocked or sold as well. That was our strongest team in 2010/11 player-for-player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 This is why I gave up arguing the toss about Mike Ashley. Some people can't be helped. I'm speechless. This club is so unrecognisable now thanks to that cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 He's a liar and always has been. And some people on here were actually "happy" with the sound bites coming out of the club in the aftermath of the Preston win. I believe even Rafa has been mugged. So sad for someone who clearly feels deeply for this club, even though he's only been here for a relatively short time. It's the art of deception, people will believe stuff being said when everything is good. I'll admit Ashley is very good at it. The timing of this is damn right disgraceful. Yeah, it's easy to be positive when things are going well. It was obvious that the feel good factor at the time was one reason why the sound bites were sounding positive. But it's no surprise, as it's Ashley, that it didn't turn out that way. When will people learn?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 He's a liar and always has been. And some people on here were actually "happy" with the sound bites coming out of the club in the aftermath of the Preston win. I believe even Rafa has been mugged. So sad for someone who clearly feels deeply for this club, even though he's only been here for a relatively short time. It's the art of deception, people will believe stuff being said when everything is good. I'll admit Ashley is very good at it. The timing of this is damn right disgraceful. Yeah, it's easy to be positive when things are going well. It was obvious that the feel good factor at the time was one reason why the sound bites were sounding positive. But it's no surprise, as it's Ashley, that it didn't turn out that way. When will people learn?? People learnt along time ago pal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Looks like " Merse" is going to sympathise with Ashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Seen a few posts on twitter and ashleyout is appearing again You just know the media and other fans will run with this. "Ashley says he can't compete with Man City, Newcastle fans want him out. Deluded geordies" The problem with AshleyOut is that the campaign only pops up when it feels like it. If there had been a consistent AshleyOut campaign from when it started 3 or 4 years ago, would we still have him here? You can support the team and Rafa whilst having that running in the background, don't need to create a negative atmosphere to get the point across. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 To be fair, they'd have been rightly slaughtered if they'd piped up after we'd won the league and Rafa then confirmed he was staying with Ashley's backing. Everything was looking up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 To be fair, they'd have been rightly slaughtered if they'd piped up after we'd won the league and Rafa then confirmed he was staying with Ashley's backing. Everything was looking up. Aye, I appreciate that and it's probably a difficult thing to run in the background when things are positive but if we want him out then what choice do we have? It just seems very 'seasonal' at the moment and imo loses its effectiveness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 protest when things were going ok? the problem they have is there is barley appetite for it inside the stadium when its swimming in shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Could do without any negativity from the stands while Rafa still wants to stay like. Stay in your hole until wanted please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 They get absolute dogs abuse from our own fans even as they're trying to force him out when things are really bad. Trying to do it when they're not is a million times more difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Yep. Need Rafalution, not civil war. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Could do without any negativity from the stands while Rafa still wants to stay like. Stay in your hole until wanted please. If you actually read what I put, I wasn't suggesting negativity in the stands during matches. There are other ways to conduct protests against the ownership without it having to effect the actual game on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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