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10 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

And Gabriel didnt block it? Random bounce?

 

3 minutes ago, Heron said:

Anyone else feeling cheated today?

Gabriel should have gone for the assault on Nick. Why was VAR not involved?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Stifler said:

They are all as bad as each other.

Arguing which is worse is like arguing which person mugging you is worse, the one with the knife, or the one with gun.

 

Is the gun loaded?

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sure it was the last corner at the gallowgate end.

jamaal had his shirt almost ripped off him as he was wrestled to the ground.

 

gabriel on nick had shades of revenge fir bruno's identical assualt last season (or was it the year before?). still should been a red.

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22 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

Its not me making the rules :lol:


Fortunately most PL refs don’t follow the handball rule as it’s written but use some common sense instead.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Pata said:


Fortunately most PL refs don’t follow the handball rule as it’s written but use some common sense instead.

 

 

 

 

Pata my friend, this place when it comes to ref decisions is as partizan as they come, it's an echo chamber when things come against us.  

 

Just don't reply.  :lol:

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2 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

Pata my friend, this place when it comes to ref decisions is as partizan as they come, it's an echo chamber when things come against us.  

 

Just don't reply.  :lol:

Lets just ban the thread then when they do wrong.

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let  the grabbing and pushing go on unpunished, then later in the second half decided to randomly punish a couple of our players for a lot less than had gone on before.

 

 

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I don't get why people don't think that's a penalty. 

 

Maybe by the letter of the law which I cba scrutinizing but by the spirit of the game surely it is?

 

He's slid in with one arm in the air positioned that could block a cross. Why does it matter if it took a slight deflection? Don't put your arm in the air like that and it won't hit it. 

 

Cf's new handball rule: could the defending player reasonably have not had his arm/hand there?

 

Gabriel could have slid with his arm lower or if sliding to block a cross with your arm in the air is the only option then don't do it or risk the penalty. 

 

See also the Fulham game where apparently it's acceptable to dive across the goal like a goalkeeper so long as the arm is in the natural position for diving across the goal. 

 

I get not wanting to give silly handballs and having a generally high bar but both those today were stonewall for me. 

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If it's deflected off another body part then I can't really complain, it's not really different to the disgrace which was Tino against PSG. 

 

Not a chance in hell the ref has spotted that deflection though; God knows why he didn't call a pen to begin with. Then you've got the hope that it's not 'clear and obvious' enough for VAR to intervene... but the benchmark where that was concerned was already set, when they changed Arsenal's penalty decision based on information impossible for the referee to have in real time.

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I think my conclusion on it is that the deflection doesn't change the fact his arm is in what you would call a textbook unnatural position, and is so negligible anyway that it's a distinction without a difference. 

 

That Gabriel should have seen red, then got away with that, then scored is absolutely typical like.

 

Weirdly, my disappointment in our performance is what's making it an easier pill to swallow. If I thought our performance deserved a draw or a win I'd be raging over it.

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

If it's deflected off another body part then I can't really complain, it's not really different to the disgrace which was Tino against PSG. 

 

Not a chance in hell the ref has spotted that deflection though; God knows why he didn't call a pen to begin with. Then you've got the hope that it's not 'clear and obvious' enough for VAR to intervene... but the benchmark where that was concerned was already set, when they changed Arsenal's penalty decision based on information impossible for the referee to have in real time.


IIRC Tino was just running normally where Gabriel slid to block a cross with his arm up in the air. 

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Feel like I’m in an alternate universe hearing people say it can’t be a penalty because it deflected off Gabriel’s shin. How anyone can say that with a straight face is beyond me. Elanga basically makes contact at the same time as Gabriel’s shin. Even if there was a gap it should still be a penalty

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34 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Feel like I’m in an alternate universe hearing people say it can’t be a penalty because it deflected off Gabriel’s shin. How anyone can say that with a straight face is beyond me. Elanga basically makes contact at the same time as Gabriel’s shin. Even if there was a gap it should still be a penalty

The law literally states that it doesn't matter if it deflects off the player first anyway. Plus, on the replays I saw, he gets a touch on the ball and it then deflects off Elanga's foot straight onto his arm that is pointing straight up like a fucking periscope anyway

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38 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Feel like I’m in an alternate universe hearing people say it can’t be a penalty because it deflected off Gabriel’s shin. How anyone can say that with a straight face is beyond me. Elanga basically makes contact at the same time as Gabriel’s shin. Even if there was a gap it should still be a penalty

 

I'm happy to listen to any argument that suggests we've faced some injustice, but if he's defended the situation fairly - and it's ricocheted onto his arm - it seems like a harsh call to give a pen.

 

In a no-VAR world, I'm raging at the ref for not giving it in the first place, with the absence of digital recourse ensuring the decision stays.

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