alexf Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I hope he'll play some part tomorrow. Agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Aye but not a sign of making the wrong decisions is it. Barfa is trying to do to much, everyone said it weeks ago during his first chances & we're still saying it weeks later. The lad almost has to much belief in himself trying flicks & taking on 2/3 players. Hes been out a year & come back to a league hes never played in. He should be keeping it more simple in the majority and progressing gradually in what he tries. Ben Arfa is likely to take too many touches while trying to do something to keep him in the team, he hasn't the luxury of being able to do anything else. Agreed. He is overworking the ball conscious of the fact that he feels he needs to do special things to keep a foothold in the side. Must be very difficult time for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 sell him.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Play him.. FYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Recoba Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I've a feeling Ben Arfa will end up somewhere like Galatasaray this summer or next. Could really see him in Istanbul, like Quaresma. PSG a possibility too I guess. Sadly I just don't think its going to happen here. Hope I am wrong as his skill is unquestionable and we need players like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEN BEN BEN ARFA Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Still don't see it as a fair comparison. If we compared players over 4 games then Ba would be deemed worse than Best after the first 4 (or even 7) games of the season. To look over someones stats after 5 starts and compare them as an attacking player to someone with 21 starts (17 of them in defence) doesn't make sense. The problem is that you refuse to compare their respective attacking game but at the same time you compare willingly their defensive contribution to justify the presence of Taylor in place of Ben Arfa. Absolute nonsense, I have already said HBA is obviously the better attacking player. Just don't think stats like that have any relevance at all. Are you on the forum as a Newcastle fan or a Ben Arfa fan? If it's the latter there probably isn't any need for a 'debate', I care about the team more than individuals. But you primarily found this forum as a Ben Arfa fan? It would be like discussing the pros and cons of gay marriage with Elton John, may agree with a lot of the points but there wouldn't be any actual sensible debate. No offence apparently used the same trick when you're short of argument whether in french than you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Still don't see it as a fair comparison. If we compared players over 4 games then Ba would be deemed worse than Best after the first 4 (or even 7) games of the season. To look over someones stats after 5 starts and compare them as an attacking player to someone with 21 starts (17 of them in defence) doesn't make sense. The problem is that you refuse to compare their respective attacking game but at the same time you compare willingly their defensive contribution to justify the presence of Taylor in place of Ben Arfa. Absolute nonsense, I have already said HBA is obviously the better attacking player. Just don't think stats like that have any relevance at all. Are you on the forum as a Newcastle fan or a Ben Arfa fan? If it's the latter there probably isn't any need for a 'debate', I care about the team more than individuals. But you primarily found this forum as a Ben Arfa fan? It would be like discussing the pros and cons of gay marriage with Elton John, may agree with a lot of the points but there wouldn't be any actual sensible debate. No offence apparently used the same trick when you're short of argument whether in french than you Let it flow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Word Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Waddle told the Chronicle: “Ben Arfa is Ben Arfa. He had the same type of problems at Marseille. “He is unpredictable on his day, but we have also seen what he can do on other days as well. “He scored a world-class goal against Blackburn. “His problem has always been consistency, he is always in and out.” Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/02/11/toon-army-will-take-hats-off-to-ben-arfa-if-he-starts-playing-consistently-72703-30308955/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#ixzz1m4mko0Q3 Waddle knows the lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Couldn't care less if his form dips in some games. So does everyone's form, it's just not as noticeable with some players who are not as gifted. He should be playing on the right, simple as that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 “I grew up with Jinky Jim Smith and you can see a bit of Jinky in Ben Arfa. “Yes, Jinky was all right foot but he would have a game when he would turn everybody inside out and then you would have a game when people would think, ‘why are they playing him?’ “Newcastle fans have always wanted an entertainer. “Whether it has been Asprilla or Ginola, they have always had that type of player who they enjoy watching. “They come out with stuff which probably frustrates their own players, but then do something special, produce one or two bits of individual brilliance that most players cannot do. “It’s the sort of stuff which will have people talking about it on the bus or the train on the way home from the match.” Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/02/11/toon-army-will-take-hats-off-to-ben-arfa-if-he-starts-playing-consistently-72703-30308955/2/#ixzz1m4qiqipp Waddle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEN BEN BEN ARFA Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Still don't see it as a fair comparison. If we compared players over 4 games then Ba would be deemed worse than Best after the first 4 (or even 7) games of the season. To look over someones stats after 5 starts and compare them as an attacking player to someone with 21 starts (17 of them in defence) doesn't make sense. The problem is that you refuse to compare their respective attacking game but at the same time you compare willingly their defensive contribution to justify the presence of Taylor in place of Ben Arfa. Absolute nonsense, I have already said HBA is obviously the better attacking player. Just don't think stats like that have any relevance at all. Are you on the forum as a Newcastle fan or a Ben Arfa fan? If it's the latter there probably isn't any need for a 'debate', I care about the team more than individuals. But you primarily found this forum as a Ben Arfa fan? It would be like discussing the pros and cons of gay marriage with Elton John, may agree with a lot of the points but there wouldn't be any actual sensible debate. No offence apparently used the same trick when you're short of argument whether in french than you Let it flow. j'ai saturé no but it's funny there was this debate several times every time the guy asks you to watch the states * and we realize he has a better ratio than its direct competitor it's like the story om when he returns from his vacation and supposedly on weight and he finished first at the beginning of physical tests seasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEN BEN BEN ARFA Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Word You are French maybe that you do not know him(it) I say that because you are different from the others Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Hatem is basically the new Tino. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Hatem is basically the new Tino. We need him to develop and become the new Rooney instead. That's the sort of role he should be playing as a no 10. Granted it's a lot easier with a team like Man U but even so he's not a million miles away if he learns to release the a little ball earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Can't see him starting today. Wolves would be ideal as we'll be back up to full strength in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 But you primarily found this forum as a Ben Arfa fan? It would be like discussing the pros and cons of gay marriage with Elton John, may agree with a lot of the points but there wouldn't be any actual sensible debate. No offence Surely that works both ways though. To say that he can't be objective on HBA because he supports HBA would also mean you can't be objective in your assessment of NUFC because you support NUFC? If you don't want to debate the point, fair enough, no need to be accusatory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 This poor cunt must be considering giving up life altogether and not just football when he can't get a game ahead of a midfield that wouldn't look out of place in a pub team. Feel bad for the lad that we're ruining him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 He'd have no impact today. Spurs are masterful tonight, if anything we need better defensive players, not offensive ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 He'd have no impact today. Spurs are masterful tonight, if anything we need better defensive players, not offensive ones. We need players who can play football, you utter halfwit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 We should all chip in and send him one of these: http://www.nothingbutcostumes.com/images/rascos/7055.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 He'd have no impact today. Spurs are masterful tonight, if anything we need better defensive players, not offensive ones. lolz. Serious lolz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 What has he done to Pardew's family? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 He'd have no impact today. Spurs are masterful tonight, if anything we need better defensive players, not offensive ones. Pardew? Or are you just taking the fucking piss James? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Seemingly so far down the pecking order it's daft. I'm not one of these who puts one player above the good of the team but we should have sold him in January if there is no intention of using him even when the match is lost. Use the money to keep Colo or Ba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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