Ronaldo Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 One of our better players against Everton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 God i hate Pardew! I wanna break stuff when i see his name and face. Disgusting man in every way! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 There was a run of games after Villa where he wasn't performing well and becoming a bit of a passenger. You can get away with the lack of tracking a full-back for example against Hull, if he's going to then make or score one himself, but that spell, he wasn't. The run of games was Hull and one half at Everton when he was one of our better players in a poor half, he and Mbiwa were the players to come off at half time. Coincided with the run of games where we did well though didn't it? (Sunderland away apart) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 One of our better players against Everton? In the first half he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Ultimately this is the same cunt that had Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano warming the bench, preferring Hayden Mullins and Marlon Harewood. Utter fucking wanksplat that he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Coincided with the run of games where we did well though didn't it? (Sunderland away apart) We could have had those results with him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Need to get rid of Pardew before he gets rid of Hatem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Needs to be more unrest at games against Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 What a total shambles this is. Can you imagine the calibre of player we will be after in the summer? If our policy is to continue down the talented French player route then we are fucked. French chairman detest us, talented French players are mistrusted, and have obviously regressed, and we have no star man to entice them. The French players will want out as soon as hba leaves. We will have to go elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Am I crazy, or were we only good when HBA came on in the last game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Coincided with the run of games where we did well though didn't it? (Sunderland away apart) We could have had those results with him though. We'll never know that, but a fair few goals & assists in that run came from Gouffran & Sissoko who were keeping him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 One of our better players against Everton? In the first half he was. You've gone mad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 It mentions in the article that Pardew attempted him in the number 10 role but was unhappy with his performance, the only game he played in that role we just lumped it to Shola. He was great against Norwich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 It mentions in the article that Pardew attempted him in the number 10 role but was unhappy with his performance, the only game he played in that role we just lumped it to Shola. He was great against Norwich. Wouldn't be at all surprised if that was a deliberate tactic to show the morons in charge that he can't cut it there and thus we best get rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 We'll never know that, but a fair few goals & assists in that run came from Gouffran & Sissoko who were keeping him out. That's true but Ben Arfa has more goals than Sissoko and probably more assists from less games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 You've gone mad. Because I have a different opinion to you, aye right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 We'll never know that, but a fair few goals & assists in that run came from Gouffran & Sissoko who were keeping him out. That's true but Ben Arfa has more goals than Sissoko and probably more assists from less games. Same assists, both on 5 (PL only) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 The man who broke the talent of whom many considered to be one of the most talented players to come out of the French youth system in the past 10 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 The trouble is, despite the talent, he still plays like an 18 year old who's only just broken into the first team. Too many times, he doesn't play to the situation that's in front of him, and gives in to the temptation to try and beat an opponent. Developing that kind of judgement is something that a player has to learn by experience. A coach can only do so much. And as has been pointed out, other managers have found the same problem. He produces some great moments, but ultimately it's a team game. Sick of hearing this rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 If Ashley really is in the business of buying cheap players and selling them on for a profit then it's shit like this that make me hope that he might peddle Pardew. Instead of a highly desired flair player being fought over by the rich clubs who could pay £20m+ for him, we'll now be lucky to get £7-8m thanks to Pardew's fuckwittery. What's even more bizarre is that Pardew's entire game plan relies upon players like Ben Arfa pulling out a piece of magic & winning games out of nothing. With Cabaye gone who do we have left that's capable of doing that? Rémy? He'll not be here next season. De Jong? I doubt he'll hang around and whilst he's looked OK so far he's not done anything special. Cisse? Pardew's mismanagement has turned him into a shell of a player & I doubt he'll hang around for next season either. If Ashley doesn't get shot of this halfwit we'll be heading into next season with no goal scorers and no match winners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Same assists, both on 5 (PL only) That's not bad, those 2 players have assisted more that 1/4 of our league goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 The trouble is, despite the talent, he still plays like an 18 year old who's only just broken into the first team. Too many times, he doesn't play to the situation that's in front of him, and gives in to the temptation to try and beat an opponent. Developing that kind of judgement is something that a player has to learn by experience. A coach can only do so much. And as has been pointed out, other managers have found the same problem. He produces some great moments, but ultimately it's a team game. Sick of hearing this rubbish. Especially when they criticize him when the team clearly isn't playing to anyone strengths. He gets more praise and more shit than anyone on here. It's absolutely ridiculous that a talented player like him who has done so well when he's played in the right position can be criticized this way. It's like playing the ball in front of Shola and trying to use his speed. Our manager is absolutely clueless and so are some fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I would say Cabaye left a much better player than when he first arrived, and he's certainly not bog standard. Cabaye left a better player because he had adjusted his game to include the Premier League, quite how you attribute that to Pardew input beggars belief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Needs to be more unrest at games against Pardew. Some of the lack of anger is due to the fact it doesn't matter how angry the fans are, he'll only go when he pisses off Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 He is fucking cunt for running out of patience with Ben Arfa but has all the time in the world for Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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