AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 The strangest thing for me is that in theory Pardew's brand of football relies on individuals to produce magic on top of the conservative base he wants to create. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 The strangest thing for me is that in theory Pardew's brand of football relies on individuals to produce magic on top of the conservative base he wants to create. Aye but 11 defenders are better than 10 so fuck your individuality, it's all 'Atam's fault tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Unbelievable that Hatem's career here would be summarised in a little more than two threads. I can't see him ever fulfilling his real potential. That isn't taking away any blame from Pardew who royally fucked up but HBA seems to have been self destructive even from him youth days. Something not right in that otherwise brilliant head of his. Ben Arfa is flawed, I don't think many would argue on that score. Forget tracking back, even going forward he has a tendency to hog the ball and that would see most top clubs steer clear. But we aren't a top club and some of the players starting ahead of him in a team which struggles to score goals aren't fit to be on the same pitch. That's the issue. The sad thing is, you can see that he's trying to fit in within Pardew's anti-football framework, and is trying to make things work out with a club for the first time in his life. This has been nothing but a complete waste of an opportunity for both sides. I can't really think of a bigger waste of talent in all the time I've been watching sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 The strangest thing for me is that in theory Pardew's brand of football relies on individuals to produce magic on top of the conservative base he wants to create. you seem to be suggesting there's little or no logic to the footballing framework laid out by alan scott pardew ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 The strangest thing for me is that in theory Pardew's brand of football relies on individuals to produce magic on top of the conservative base he wants to create. Ben Arfa plays too deep to be allowed any individuality. He really only wants the "magic" from a centre forward. Even in a 4-3-3, the two wide forwards are only there to hold the full back's hand for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 The strangest thing for me is that in theory Pardew's brand of football relies on individuals to produce magic on top of the conservative base he wants to create. Ben Arfa plays too deep to be allowed any individuality. He really only wants the "magic" from a centre forward. Even in a 4-3-3, the two wide forwards are only there to hold the full back's hand for them. yeah this, or from cabaye who has the workrate as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Workrate. Energy levels. 'Was' instead of 'were'. I long to forget these linguistic Pardewisms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 yeah it's depressing under Pardew it's 9 defenders and one player allowed flair in a footy team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 It annoyed the fuck out of me when he was receiving the ball midway in our half and expected to create something from there. He still did for a while as well, just took everyone on. Not rose-tinted either, he either took the piss, or was the only thing worth watching at the start of last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Back in the Toon - pictured in a taxi on Twitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Workrate. Energy levels. 'Was' instead of 'were'. I long to forget these linguistic Pardewisms. That "was" stuff is really irksome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 The strangest thing for me is that in theory Pardew's brand of football relies on individuals to produce magic on top of the conservative base he wants to create. Ben Arfa plays too deep to be allowed any individuality. He really only wants the "magic" from a centre forward. Even in a 4-3-3, the two wide forwards are only there to hold the full back's hand for them. yeah this, or from cabaye who has the workrate as well Even Cabaye was usually played in front of the defenders for the majority of the 90 mins. It's surprising he got as many assists and goals as he did considering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Workrate. Energy levels. 'Was' instead of 'were'. I long to forget these linguistic Pardewisms. That "was" stuff is really irksome. How so poppet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Not sure if Giggs but... Linked heavily with Arsenal in the French press Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hydeous Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Would be an honour to see him play for them, etc, etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I dearly wish for Alan Pardew to be harmed. Greviously, perhaps lethally, then crushed under an ATM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 "A clab lyk owsnul, they can afford to has a playa like Atam, one Oo will open doorz an produce tha littul bit ov magic an not av to worry about, perapse goin bak that way. An we wan tha, Matt is a triffic full back, but we're not quite there yeh(t)" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 "A clab lyk owsnul, they can afford to has a playa like Atam, one Oo will open doorz an produce tha littul bit ov magic an not av to worry about, perapse goin bak that way. An we wan tha, Matt is a triffic full back, but we're not quite there yeh(t)" Sounds like a deaf stroke victim leper whose lips have fallen off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I love how he's not played consistently for ages and he's still so highly rated. Arsene is a big fan - didn't he say something like "I was worried when you came on" to him after our game? Arsene knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Score against them 2011, we promptly conceded 30 seconds later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Nah, it was this season I'm sure. Didn't say we'd scored or owt, just that Arsene was mildly perturbed. "Pardew made his move with 28 minutes remaining when he sent on Ben Arfa for the tiring Yoan Gouffran and charged him with the task of running at Arsenal." That was it. Think we conceded roughly 2 minutes later, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 If he went to Arsenal, Wenger could make him phenomenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Arsene Wenger: “Ben Arfa’s a player with huge potential – one of the most gifted we have in France. “He’s an exceptional talent, but, due to injury, has not had a big run for a while.” He loves Atam. Not sure he's an Arsenal player though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 He's going nowhere near a team of that calibre, like. There's just younger, better more professional players for such clubs to choose from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 He's going nowhere near a team of that calibre, like. There's just younger, better more professional players for such clubs to choose from. Unfortunately, I'd have to agree. That ship has sailed for Hatam, and I would attribute 80% fault to the slimy one but the 20% is definitely his reaction to his detractor, he could have handled things a little better. Breaks the fucking heart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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