Guest chopey Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Everybody connected with Newcastle (including the fans) are considering their future with the exception of Pardew and Ashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 But it's OK to count them as players brought in presumably. Righteo. I'm glad you know exactly what other posters think at all times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 But it's OK to count them as players brought in presumably. Righteo. I'm glad you know exactly what other posters think at all times. I have no idea what you think about anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I'm pretty sure that in order to bring him to a club two points above the relegation zone after 21 matches we would have had to tell him that we had loftier ambitions for the future than simply staying up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Next season is going to be a fucking car crash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Not a nice quote to read from what is now one of our best, most consistent players. Why would he even say this with so much left on his contact? It's almost as though he doesn't see the club going anywhere. What's changed from when he signed for us & now, other than Cabaye no longer being here? Club showing no ambition? Bang on the money. Debuchy showing a hint of discontent was somewhat inevitable. The sale of Cabaye basically told the players what our long term ambitions are and it may have very well started something very bad within (but of course we have no way of knowing this for sure but I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case...). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Can you blame any of the players, it's got to ridiculous levels of shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Not a nice quote to read from what is now one of our best, most consistent players. Why would he even say this with so much left on his contact? It's almost as though he doesn't see the club going anywhere. What's changed from when he signed for us & now, other than Cabaye no longer being here? Club showing no ambition? Bang on the money. Debuchy showing a hint of discontent was somewhat inevitable. The sale of Cabaye basically told the players what our long term ambitions were and it may have very well started something very bad within (but of course we have no way of knowing for sure...). No point signing for us other than to put yourself in the shop window. Back to the dark old days of Beardsley,Waddle, Gazza leaving. In between we decided when a player left- even Andy Cole was a conscious decision. We have gone full circle from the McKeags and ended right back to square one. I blame John Hall, the bar-steward buggered off sharpish with a giant bag of loot and damned be the consequences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Can you blame any of the players, it's got to ridiculous levels of s****. It really has. We've become a stepping stone for French players as well as becoming a club of nothingness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Can you blame any of the players, it's got to ridiculous levels of s****. It really has. We've become a stepping stone and have become a club of nothingness. Aye, just drifting aimlessly in the sea of the Premiership. Thing is with Captain Pardew at the helm, we'll end up on the rocks at some stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Can you blame any of the players, it's got to ridiculous levels of s****. It really has. We've become a stepping stone for French players as well as becoming a club of nothingness. Thing is, I could just about be comfortable with being a stepping stone club. You look at Spurs and they've sold Carrick, Berbatov, Modric, Bale and probably a few more on to bigger and better clubs but the key difference is that they've pumped all of the cash made from being a stepping stone club back into finding more players. We've banked it. They've got the ambition to move the club forward and compete to win as much as they possibly can. Being a stepping stone club can be accompanied with realistic ambition and they've got it/done it. Players come and go all the time and I've long since passed the time where I take a player for granted, moving players on at a profit is acceptable as long as the club shows enough ambition to reinvest all of the proceeds into moving the club forward. That's what's lacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Not a nice quote to read from what is now one of our best, most consistent players. Why would he even say this with so much left on his contact? It's almost as though he doesn't see the club going anywhere. What's changed from when he signed for us & now, other than Cabaye no longer being here? The atmosphere in the dressing room ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Good luck to the fella. If I were a half decent player, I'd want out too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Everybody connected with Newcastle (including the fans) are considering their future with the exception of Pardew and Ashley You forgot about 'coaches' John Carver, Steve Stone and Andy Woodman also on eight-year contracts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Good luck to the fella. If I were a half decent player, I'd want out too. Even Shola said he wasn't sure about his future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Can you blame any of the players, it's got to ridiculous levels of s****. It really has. We've become a stepping stone for French players as well as becoming a club of nothingness. Thing is, I could just about be comfortable with being a stepping stone club. You look at Spurs and they've sold Carrick, Berbatov, Modric, Bale and probably a few more on to bigger and better clubs but the key difference is that they've pumped all of the cash made from being a stepping stone club back into finding more players. We've banked it. They've got the ambition to move the club forward and compete to win as much as they possibly can. Being a stepping stone club can be accompanied with realistic ambition and they've got it/done it. Players come and go all the time and I've long since passed the time where I take a player for granted, moving players on at a profit is acceptable as long as the club shows enough ambition to reinvest all of the proceeds into moving the club forward. That's what's lacking. Exactly, Spurs will sell but are willing to spend to replace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Next season is going to be a fucking car crash. We're going down IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Good luck to the fella. If I were a half decent player, I'd want out too. Even Shola said he wasn't sure about his future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Next season is going to be a fucking car crash. We're going down IMO. I wouldn't be at all surprised. Ashley's too often keen to push his negligence to dangerous levels. We're in a position where we need to rebuild, he'll want to do it on the cheap... or nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 The other downside to all this is that those players they think they might sign may well have second thoughts now. They could probably have got Grenier and Cabella in January but now other clubs are interested in them and they will see our better players wanting out. Grenier has the same agent as Remy so they will know exactly what is going on. At this rate, it won't be 6 or 7 players we need, it will 10+ and how on earth will the club cope with that with the way they conduct their transfer business. They will have to get a move on because if they leave it late (and the World Cup will mean a lot of business will be done late in the window), we will barely be able to put out a team for the opening game of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Grenier's agent seemed pretty insulted by our offer in January. Aside from Debuchy we don't normally go back in for players we've tried to get before, do we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 The other downside to all this is that those players they think they might sign may well have second thoughts now. They could probably have got Grenier and Cabella in January but now other clubs are interested in them and they will see our better players wanting out. Grenier has the same agent as Remy so they will know exactly what is going on. At this rate, it won't be 6 or 7 players we need, it will 10+ and how on earth will the club cope with that with the way they conduct their transfer business. They will have to get a move on because if they leave it late (and the World Cup will mean a lot of business will be done late in the window), we will barely be able to put out a team for the opening game of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Who's that left back?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Next season is going to be a f***ing car crash. We're setup for a fucking implosion if Ashley's still here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 The other downside to all this is that those players they think they might sign may well have second thoughts now. They could probably have got Grenier and Cabella in January but now other clubs are interested in them and they will see our better players wanting out. Grenier has the same agent as Remy so they will know exactly what is going on. At this rate, it won't be 6 or 7 players we need, it will 10+ and how on earth will the club cope with that with the way they conduct their transfer business. They will have to get a move on because if they leave it late (and the World Cup will mean a lot of business will be done late in the window), we will barely be able to put out a team for the opening game of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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