Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 You don't need a "tackler". Do Bayern have a "tackler"? No, they have three competent, very athletic ball carriers who can all pass with metronomic accuracy. They then teach them how to tackle sufficiently to win the ball back. If we had a decent coach, or any coach, they could just teach Vurnon how to tackle sufficiently to win the ball back and play it. The British obsession with having a holding midfielder/destroyer is another thing holding our game back. Midfielders are the links and the engine in a football team, they all need to be comply comfortable in possession, accurate in passing and adept at finding space first and foremost. Then you teach them how to tackle. Of course, this being Pardew's team, the priorities are ability to tackle, hoof towards a vague space in front (preferably where opposition team member is standing) and then stand on defence's toes as time goes on. The only thing you're missing is that teams that don't play with a tackler or sweeper have really good CB's and their back 4 works as a unit when defending and to keep possession. As good as Colo was last season, he still got ripped apart by the pacier players in the league and don't get me started on Willo or S.Taylor. And when you consider the number of physical forwards and midfielders in the league, having an "enforcer" is a necessity and not an option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Time to shine I guess. Let's hope a season bedding in, and a place opening up in the team lets him grow from the odd glimpse he's shown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Don't know if he has an array of passes on him to be more than a tidy up midfielder that plays simple passes. Hopefully he can prove something to us this term and show more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 He'll be a like a new signing, considering how rarely Pardew started him in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 He'll be off IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Cautiously optimistic about him. He's got talent, let's see if he can put it together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 At least he might get a fucking game now and again. Pity it's not Tiote he's replacing, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 He'll come good for us. Step up Vurnon son. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 i like the kid, always have, but it'd be fucking utter madness to start the season with him as our main hopes for CM we'd either be great, or a certainty for relegation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 I like him, think he is a very good player even though he struggled a bit last season BUT there is no way he is going to play a bigger part next season, not unless we plan on bringing in a manager that actually wants to play football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 He'll be off IMO. He could (rightly) say he hasn't been used correctly by pardew. But no other Newcastle player has either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 If there is a silver lining to Cabaye (possibly) leaving it's that Vurnon will get more starts this coming season. I think this dude is class and really just needs a few starts to show it to the faithful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Was one of our better players in Dec/Jan before he was dropped. Get's the ball moving quickly - one of very few of our lads to pass and go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 hope to see him much more next season. hope we keep these and plays like this: 3 man central midfield: tiote * or cabaye Sissoko Cabaye * or Anita Perch should be behind anita next season. Bigi loan maybe. Jonas bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Still like him a lot, he's got a great range of passing imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 If Pardew can't get the best out of Cabaye, there is no way he will set the team up in a manner which will even come close to us seeing the best of Anita, who has an even more limited/specific role than Cabaye if anything. I'm also not sure how anyone can rate Anita highly based on what we saw last season. Very much an unknown quantity at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Maybe we should float set pieces to him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 If Pardew can't get the best out of Cabaye, there is no way he will set the team up in a manner which will even come close to us seeing the best of Anita, who has an even more limited/specific role than Cabaye if anything. I'm also not sure how anyone can rate Anita highly based on what we saw last season. Very much an unknown quantity at this point. Agree. The whole team were poor last season. Anita didn't really stand out as anything special in his limited appearances. I'm not writing him off but I'm also not sure how good he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 If Pardew can't get the best out of Cabaye, there is no way he will set the team up in a manner which will even come close to us seeing the best of Anita, who has an even more limited/specific role than Cabaye if anything. I'm also not sure how anyone can rate Anita highly based on what we saw last season. Very much an unknown quantity at this point. Best not to judge Anita on Cabaye's performance under Pardew - how many players has Pardew actually improved since he's been here ? Think Cisse, Cabaye,Anita just to name a few..! Except that they HAVEN'T been improved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 If Pardew can't get the best out of Cabaye, there is no way he will set the team up in a manner which will even come close to us seeing the best of Anita, who has an even more limited/specific role than Cabaye if anything. I'm also not sure how anyone can rate Anita highly based on what we saw last season. Very much an unknown quantity at this point. Agree. The whole team were poor last season. Anita didn't really stand out as anything special in his limited appearances. I'm not writing him off but I'm also not sure how good he is. As crazy as it may sound - no one and i mean no one in our entire squad had a good season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Was one of our better players in Dec/Jan before he was dropped. Get's the ball moving quickly - one of very few of our lads to pass and go. on the money, however it's fucking pointless if only one of them is doing it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Had a run of games in December and looked great then Tiote came back was shit but kept place and kicked Anita out of side while doing so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 At least 5 times a game he shows for the ball and gets ignored, it happened more and more as the season wore on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Corner Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Why hasn't vernon been in the squad the past few games? Is he injured? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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