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We knew about hangeland's prowess in the air before the game yet kept lofting it into him to head away.

 

Oh and Duff. What's his f***ing problem. Plays s*** for us for 2 years and gets relegated yet leaps back to the prem as soon as he can then precedes to celebrate like a t*** when he scored against us 2 years ago and then did some twatty thing when he assisted tonight aswell.

 

Probably because he gets s*** from our supporters every time he plays against us. I'd be exactly the same tbh.

 

Yes but surely he can understand why. It's not like we're booing him to say be lacks ability, it's because he had it but couldn't be arsed to use it with us, helped get us relegated and fucked off. It's not like him scoring contradicts us, it highlights what he could but didn't do for us. Totally different to ginola or someone like that rubbing it in.

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This was arguably the only time we've played well over 90 minutes this season, just a shame we played against a side that parked the bus and didn't get much of a break.

 

What were you watching for the 1st 40 mins btw?  They had 7 shots to our 2 at the 40 minute mark btw.

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This was arguably the only time we've played well over 90 minutes this season, just a shame we played against a side that parked the bus and didn't get much of a break.

 

What were you watching for the 1st 40 mins btw?  They had 7 shots to our 2 at the 40 minute mark btw.

 

At half time we had 9 shots and 3 on target, which was more

Than them according to the telly in the ground (which wasn't sky)

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This was arguably the only time we've played well over 90 minutes this season, just a shame we played against a side that parked the bus and didn't get much of a break.

 

I honestly cannot fathom how you could think we played well, tbh. I'll leave it at that.

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This was arguably the only time we've played well over 90 minutes this season, just a shame we played against a side that parked the bus and didn't get much of a break.

 

What were you watching for the 1st 40 mins btw?  They had 7 shots to our 2 at the 40 minute mark btw.

 

At half time we had 9 shots and 3 on target, which was more

Than them according to the telly in the ground (which wasn't sky)

 

Which was from the last 5 minutes of the 1st half when we decided to have a go at Fulham for once. 

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This was arguably the only time we've played well over 90 minutes this season, just a shame we played against a side that parked the bus and didn't get much of a break.

 

I honestly cannot fathom how you could think we played well, tbh. I'll leave it at that.

 

Same.

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We knew about hangeland's prowess in the air before the game yet kept lofting it into him to head away.

 

Oh and Duff. What's his fucking problem. Plays shit for us for 2 years and gets relegated yet leaps back to the prem as soon as he can then precedes to celebrate like a twat when he scored against us 2 years ago and then did some twatty thing when he assisted tonight aswell.

 

Probably because he gets shit from our supporters every time he plays against us. I'd be exactly the same tbh.

 

Against us? He used to get it plenty when he played for us. Mainly from me. I think he's still annoyed about that time he came to take a throw in at Hartlepool and I told him he was a shit cunt.

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I'm surprised by the positions of the crosses on that graphic. It seemed to me that Simpson was hitting many from deeper positions. With a crowded box, that makes them the hoof of the cross world.

 

Some positive signs today, especially compared to the Southampton debacle, but Fulham are poor and the game was there to be won. We conceded the second far too easily.

 

No-one's mentioned it but fantastic save by Krul when Berb was clean through on about twenty minutes otherwise it would have been game over there and then.

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Seems like people who were there saw something different to on tv. Everyone there seemed to think we were unlucky/done by isolated mistake. I'm not an apologist, we've played proper shit recently just don't see how tonight can be seen like that.

 

:thup:

 

I really think tonight's result was much more down to certain players letting the team down than Pardew's tactics. Tiote was absolutely awful, Cisse and Ba looked thick as mince and ball watch when we're in possession. We knocked it about well but were let down partly by poor decision making and partly an absence of luck. Pardew must take blame for 3 shite subs though, timing and personnel was all wrong.

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Seems like people who were there saw something different to on tv. Everyone there seemed to think we were unlucky/done by isolated mistake. I'm not an apologist, we've played proper shit recently just don't see how tonight can be seen like that.

 

:thup:

 

I really think tonight's result was much more down to certain players letting the team down than Pardew's tactics. Tiote was absolutely awful, Cisse and Ba looked thick as mince and ball watch when we're in possession. We knocked it about well but were let down partly by poor decision making and partly an absence of luck. Pardew must take blame for 3 shite subs though, timing and personnel was all wrong.

 

I agree 100% with this. Style of play was much more positive. Individual performances were disgusting.

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What ? We tried to play good football ?

 

1st half was awful, nothing positive. It should have been 3-0 for them

Then yeah 2nd half was better but it was because they were leading 2-1, they stayed behind so we had more spaces to attack. When it was 0-0 or 1-1 we were sh*t. It was poor, it was all about long balls/Simpson crossing with no accuracy, nothing built. Maybe we had 20min of good mouvement, I need to watch the game a 2nd time.

 

IMO, the problem isn't the formation but the philosophy.

You can play 4-4-2 and play some good football going forward like Paris-Saint-Germain or Bordeaux like they did againt us in the Europa (they put a reserve team too so no excuses).

Of course when you're playing 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3, it helps.

But you can put every formation you want, if you're playing long balls you won't go far. Top teams are playing short direct passes. We have the players to do it.

Even when we're playing 4-3-3, AP puts Cissé or Shola on a wing and we still put long balls to Shola/Ba/Cissé.

 

An another thing it's the subtitutes he makes : why Shola intead of Marveaux ? Why Anita off, he was one of our best player. And it's not the first time that we've seen him making shocking susbtitutions.

 

Last thing is when he talks sh*t in the press, exemple when he was saying that we played 4-3-3 whereas everbody saw that it was 4-4-2 (against Southampton). When he finds excuses (Europa League, Senegal blocking Cissé...)

 

That's why I think we should sack him, the improvement aren't good enough. We are all wondering what is he doing in training. For me this guy belongs to the championship.

If we want to keep our best player we should get a manager with an attaking philosophy before that it's too late.

Just my POV.

 

(Sorry for my english I'm french).

 

Edit : + the set-pieces awful.

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What ? We tried to play good football ?

 

1st half was awful, nothing positive. It should have been 3-0 for them

Then yeah 2nd half was better but it was because they were leading 2-1, they stayed behind so we had more spaces to attack. When it was 0-0 or 1-1 we were sh*t. It was poor, it was all about long balls/Simpson crossing with no accuracy, nothing built. Maybe we had 20min of good mouvement, I need to watch the game a 2nd time.

 

IMO, the problem isn't the formation but the philosophy.

You can play 4-4-2 and play some good football going forward like Paris-Saint-Germain or Bordeaux like they did againt us in the Europa (they put a reserve team too so no excuses).Of course when you're playing 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3, it helps.

But you can put every formation you want, if you're playing long balls you won't go far. Top teams are playing short direct passes. We have the players to do it.

Even when we're playing 4-3-3, AP puts Cissé or Shola on a wing and we still put long balls to Shola/Ba/Cissé.

 

An another thing it's the subtitutes he makes : why Shola intead of Marveaux ? Why Anita off, he was one of our best player. And it's not the first time that we've seen him making shocking susbtitutions.

 

Last thing is when he talks sh*t in the press, exemple when he was saying that we played 4-3-3 whereas everbody saw that it was 4-4-2 (against Southampton). When he finds excuses (Europa League, Senegal blocking Cissé...)

 

That's why I think we should sack him, the improvement aren't good enough. We are all wondering what is he doing in training. For me this guy belongs to the championship.

If we want to keep our best player we should get a manager with an attaking philosophy before that it's too late.

Just my POV.

 

(Sorry for my english I'm french).

 

Edit : + the set-pieces awful.

 

 

With respect to the piece placed in bold. Playing a reserve team (ie. in Europe, while stars rest) shouldn't be an excuse for trotting out anti-football.

 

They might not have the usual cutting edge (particularly in front of goal) but the football Arsenal/ManUtd/Barca etc play when blooding the youngsters shows there is a cohesive football philosophy in place. From the scouting team, the Academy level, and to the first team manager they're all in sync.

 

I don't trust Pardew when it comes to the task of developing the technique-oriented youngsters Carver is scouting. I have the same feeling when it comes to our two most promising defensive prospects ie. Tavanier, and *Streete (*when he does get his hands on him).

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The amount of possession gifted by punting balls forward is really fucking me off now. Depresses me that when the glimmer of pass and move play is present and Ben Arfa is looking ok that Pardew takes him off and resorts to garbage last ditch bollocks. Subs are ill-conceived and too late. It was better and I think we were unlucky for the sidwell goal but christ has it been dire this season.

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They seemed happy to leave the right hand side of the pitch wide open for Simpson.  He's so ineffective going forward and we wasted so much of the ball down that side. 

 

The 4-3-3 was terrible and was set up all wrong, we struggle to create any genuine chances and the subs were baffling.

 

I thought Fulham were pretty poor, but we made Duff look like Lionel Messi FFS and they could have scored a lot more.

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One thing to say is that we played much better than the Southampton, stoke games but the are still big big problems.

1) wrong substitutions at wrong times.

2) playing Cisse on the wing rather than centrally.

3) players who shouldn't be near the first team like Tiote, Williamson, Jonas. Of course due to the lack of investment made in the summer we are stuck with them.

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Already getting shit at work. Fuck me, wish these useless cunts could pick up a win so I don't have to put up with this. :lol:

 

Who do your work colleagues support?

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