Ronaldo Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I realise that. Not in recent decades, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Carroll was born with the make-up for tremendous physical advantages which not even our 'academy' could negate. At his best he's got so much more than just a physical advantage. Don't get me wrong, he's a fucking specimen, but he's actually a very good, technical, footballer on his day. He's an absolute anomaly where our recent homegrown talent is concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Carroll was born with the make-up for tremendous physical advantages which not even our 'academy' could negate. At his best he's got so much more than just a physical advantage. Don't get me wrong, he's a f***ing specimen, but he's actually a very good, technical, footballer on his day. He's an absolute anomaly where our recent homegrown talent is concerned. Didn't ever quite know if he would amount to much, but then he hit a stride that still gives me chills. The way he played the first half of that season back up before that Daglish thunderbastard of a transfer offer.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 There's one thing i wish we did to negate this. We all know how ridiculously overpriced English players are, but why the f*ck why we are not trying our very hardest to improve the youth development to bring these players through is beyond me. Seems a happy marriage, the fat man can still be a cheap asshole and we have players coming from to keep the fans happy and have players we can relate to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Carroll was born with the make-up for tremendous physical advantages which not even our 'academy' could negate. At his best he's got so much more than just a physical advantage. Don't get me wrong, he's a f***ing specimen, but he's actually a very good, technical, footballer on his day. He's an absolute anomaly where our recent homegrown talent is concerned. Didn't ever quite know if he would amount to much, but then he hit a stride that still gives me chills. The way he played the first half of that season back up before that Daglish thunderbastard of a transfer offer.... Yep, be was brilliant - even if it was fuelled by physical dominance and relentless determination. Showed glimpses of his best at West Ham last season, too. To my annoyance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 There's one thing i wish we did to negate this. We all know how ridiculously overpriced English players are, but why the f*ck why we are not trying our very hardest to improve the youth development to bring these players through is beyond me. Seems a happy marriage, the fat man can still be a cheap asshole and we have players coming from to keep the fans happy and have players we can relate to. I do believe they have increased their spend on youth development (Membership revenue going straight to the Academy IIRC). Just a case of they don't know how to use the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 We got an option to buy after the loan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Carroll was born with the make-up for tremendous physical advantages which not even our 'academy' could negate. At his best he's got so much more than just a physical advantage. Don't get me wrong, he's a fucking specimen, but he's actually a very good, technical, footballer on his day. He's an absolute anomaly where our recent homegrown talent is concerned. If he'd been born shorter, smaller and with less explosiveness he'd be in League One with the rest of the rubbish from our youth setup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Changes in YD take years to display results, it took us a decade to begin to regularly produce good players since Cruyff reformed the whole thing mirroring the Ajax systems. You're possibly paying the neglect of 10 years ago (assuming there was one, I wasn't around). Whatever positive changes you'd be making now will take years to root and permeate. I too agree that nothing beats the feeling of a local lad turning out for your team and being key to its success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Carroll was helped by playing in the best side in the championship pure and simple. He was a good player already but him & Ranger both made a step up about half way through that season. Carroll kept going & Rangers behaviour ruined him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Changes in YD take years to display results, it took us a decade to begin to regularly produce good players since Cruyff reformed the whole thing mirroring the Ajax systems. You're possibly paying the neglect of 10 years ago (assuming there was one, I wasn't around). Whatever positive changes you'd be making now will take years to root and permeate. I too agree that nothing beats the feeling of a local lad turning out for your team and being key to its success. Aye agree, just get the feeling we are not actually trying that hard to rectify those issues and if we are we are not investing correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Carroll was helped by playing in the best side in the championship pure and simple. He was a good player already but him & Ranger both made a step up about half way through that season. Carroll kept going & Rangers behaviour ruined him. That and the fact Ranger had no Premier League talent whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Carroll was helped by playing in the best side in the championship pure and simple. He was a good player already but him & Ranger both made a step up about half way through that season. Carroll kept going & Rangers behaviour ruined him. That and the fact Ranger had no Premier League talent whatsoever. Disagree with that like. He was a total nob obviously, but he was a handful for defenders and was more mobile than Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Why not give him a number for the photo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I wouldn't say that we are bad at producing talent more the case that we are bad at nurturing it. It's not too long ago that the captain of the English football team was a Geordie and when you compare that to other areas that's a pretty damn good achievement and that's just one example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Interview up on NUFCtv. Except of course, it isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Woo Hoo!!! http://gifs.gifbin.com/092009/1254334927_celebration-dance.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Should be Pardew in those Photo's but I understand JFK had to be seen to do something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SJV03 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Great player tbf Questionable attitude though and I am surprised your fans have taken to him so quickly after he basically told you to get fucked (to go to a smaller and already doomed club purely for money) in January The fact it's a loan deal could be genius or terrible for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Interview up on NUFCtv. Except of course, it isn't. dem production values http://i42.tinypic.com/2u5riok.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 How creepy is pardew. It's like he's frozen stiff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Interview up on NUFCtv. Except of course, it isn't. dem production values http://i42.tinypic.com/2u5riok.gif JFK's back on the drink and taken over the camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Any reference to his failed Jan transfer? I'm curious as to how they address that PR-wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Not involved with QPR pre-season due to a calf problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Any reference to his failed Jan transfer? I'm curious as to how they address that PR-wise. http://www.christianstogether.net/Images/content/658/372497.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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