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Newcastle United 1 - 2 Everton - 02/01/13 - post-match reaction from page 53


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Really want to hear Pardew's post match comments, genuinely intrigued as to where he thinks we went wrong

 

Don't expect an analysis... Things just went against us today, injuries, Demba leaving getting into players heads, story of the past few weeks.. blah blah blah. Don't panic infront of the camera, shit yourself Pardew off it. Better be a big week in the transfer window or you could very well be fucked. Another loss at Brighton (which looks destined) and the shit will almost certainly hit the fan, or the fans like usual.

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Guest Wally_McFool

Debuchy will probably change his mind and stay at Lille after watching that shower of shite  :dave:

 

Ba might be thinking the same after watching Chelsea  tonight :D

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How are so many people just blaming the ref for our loss? The team and Pardew have to take the blame for this one. Second half subs showed the workings of a mad man. Those subs... incredible. John Carver will do a better job from the current showing.

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A new manager?Who the f*** will we get?

 

This.

 

It's not going to happen. Not yet. The fans will turn if we lose to Brighton again though, then it is a true up hill battle. Everything is going to depend on signings to keep the discontent simmering long enough to hopefully pick up some points. Worrying.

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Special mentions to Tiote and Williamson, who were both horrific tonight. Sick of the sight of them.

 

Almost saw another Willo spectacular og, fortunate save from Timmy boy.  Williamson clearly not good enough

 

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Shaken somewhat from my Pardew-induced apathy tonight by the bent as a fifteen-bob note performance from the referee.

 

Also, Everton are an absolute bunch of cowards. How disappointing.

 

Biggest let-down tonight was Colo. Fucking shit on their second goal.

 

 

 

I know Coloccini is held to a different standard due to his quality but Santon was most to blame for their second.  As usual watching the ball with no idea where the player he should be marking is until its too late.

 

It was a difficult situation tracking running markers, but Colo had him properly contained as far as I could see. There was no magic/trickery pace to get by him, it was just a massive lapse in concentration by Colo (who turned his head fully around?!) and it wasn't even a hard-hit cross to get past Colo - he was just asleep. I haven't seen a replay of it mind you, but that's how it seemed to me in real time.

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Special mentions to Tiote and Williamson, who were both horrific tonight. Sick of the sight of them.

 

Tiote's actually has more bad games than good at this club and has got away with it for far too long because he tends to do well in the televised games against the big teams. I'd sell him in a second.

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At least this time we tried, we created some danger, we fought. Unfortunately we can't avoid to concede, and when you concede 2-3 times per match you don't get points in EPL. In this it really looks like the relegation season. We need a CB, and Tiote should fuck off to the likes of Shrewsbury or Accrington, he's simply not good enough for this level and he's damn brainless.

If we sign a good CB and we have no more serious injuries we'll be fine.

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We can blame the ref all we like, yeah it doesn't help, but fuck sake, we are dreadful. No ideas, too many players being carried, lack of tactics, no one knowing their roles, poor subs, list is endless. But yeah, it's the ref.

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One of the things that annoyed me the most where the incident when Anita was SCREAMING for the ball, all open on the right side and when Sammy gets the ball, he passes it to his piss poor brother instead of going out right to Anita. It seemed to be a pattern as well the shola-sammy linkup. Fucking furious to watch Anita having more space then anyone on the pitch yet he wouldn't pass to him.

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Shola is fine. As a sub on the 75th.

 

Blame the clueless chump who looks smart and suit with his dossiers on how well other teams perform rather than concetrate on any philosophy of his own. Blame the wheeler dealer owners who are stubborn bastards and stick to a spending plan that makes the ConDems look like Richie fucking rich. If Debuchy coming in is the sum of our ambition then they need to book their ideas up. The ideas vaccum that is Pardew and the investment one that are Ashley, Llabias et al are as toxic a combination as the spend-happy toxic mess that was Shepherd and Souness et. al.

 

There was a real platform to push on last season with individual brilliance from the many talented players that we do have papering over this whole mess. Dross of last season like Villa and Liverpool have improved in some way and our stagnant stance is costing us dearly. So fucking oig sick right now. Put your money where your mouths are. Get some investment and if you pertain to be a disciple of tactics and preparation then get on with it and get us playing football that wins games...unless of course your another jobs for the boys bullshitter the likes we've alreay had in abundance.

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Tiote is not shite and nor is Santon. I think there's a bit of mass hysteria going on here about those two right now. Williamson however....

 

The lack of a decent cb to partner Colo is def the problem along with us sitting back and conceding the initiative all the time. Plus some of Pardew's dodgy 'tactical' substitutions.

 

 

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Eventually, we play to our strengths and play it long, and were unlucky not to get an equaliser. It might be ugly, but in the absence of our more skilful players we don't have much choice.

 

I think literally the opposite to everything you've just said there. They're not our strengths, Pardew has just made us believe that. We've got skill, flair and close-control in the squad - and we looked completely bereft of ideas once the manager had us booting it long.

 

He withdrew Obertan immediately after he looked the only player capable of getting into the box and shooting.

 

Yep, Anita, Marvaux, Cisse ect, all need the ball to feet, but Shola needs it high so lets hoof..

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Special mentions to Tiote and Williamson, who were both horrific tonight. Sick of the sight of them.

 

Tiote's actually has more bad games than good at this club and has got away with it for far too long because he tends to do well in the televised games against the big teams. I'd sell him in a second.

 

:thup:

 

I'm not convinced players coming back and signings being made will fix this mess either Pardew will just limit them like he limits everyone else.

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Also I don't want to spoil the anger fest in here but did we just lose hopelessly at home against QPR?, because you'd think so from the reactions here.

 

At home against Everton, who in no way shape or form was anything more than decent today. We should be getting points here.  But no, we were set up badly, and we played likewise. Anger fest is in it's place.

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Eventually, we play to our strengths and play it long, and were unlucky not to get an equaliser. It might be ugly, but in the absence of our more skilful players we don't have much choice.

 

We've got skill, flair and close-control in the squad.

 

 

Really? In the midfield and attack, I'd say we have three players that I'd call skilful - Marveaux, Ben Arfa and Cabaye. Four if you count Sammy, who's a bit raw. The rest all struggle to keep and use the ball when deprived of time and space. In the absence of two of those players, the balance isn't right.

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Shaken somewhat from my Pardew-induced apathy tonight by the bent as a fifteen-bob note performance from the referee.

 

Also, Everton are an absolute bunch of cowards. How disappointing.

 

Biggest let-down tonight was Colo. f***ing s*** on their second goal.

 

 

 

I know Coloccini is held to a different standard due to his quality but Santon was most to blame for their second.  As usual watching the ball with no idea where the player he should be marking is until its too late.

to be fair even the best defenders get caught when a player is on their shoulder like that, it's an either or situation and he got done. Have to wonder why we have one forward of putting a defender in that position and he's playing out wide.

 

We are starting to use the ball better, at last using marveaux but our defending has gone to shit and oh, we could have been 2 up as the tackle on shola was a pen.

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Eventually, we play to our strengths and play it long, and were unlucky not to get an equaliser. It might be ugly, but in the absence of our more skilful players we don't have much choice.

 

We've got skill, flair and close-control in the squad.

 

 

Really? In the midfield and attack, I'd say we have three players that I'd call skilful - Marveaux, Ben Arfa and Cabaye. Four if you count Sammy, who's a bit raw. The rest all struggle to keep and use the ball when deprived of time and space. In the absence of two of those players, the balance isn't right.

Anita is excellent on the ball and Obertan is looking far better recently, even discounting him though, 4 forward thinking technically gifted midfielders is probably more than most.
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