BottledDog Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I would say that the team very obviously picks itself for Tuesday and if it's anything other than the blatantly obvious and we don't win, then the manager has to be sacked immediately. Obviously I'd happily give him the bullet regardless but some people have convinced themselves that he deserves some sort of chance with these players. Fail to beat this Villa side and that should be chance over. What's this blatantly obvious team then? Krul; Debuchy, Coloccini, MYM, Santon, Sissoko, Anita, Cabaye, Gouffran, Marveaux, Cisse. Looks sexy, but I wouldn't say it's blatantly obvious. Personally I probably wouldn't see Gouffran out there, we need him as a striker option on the bench and feck knows whether he or the others can manage the full 90 minutes of a Prem game. Also considering they'll only be seeing 1 or 2 training sessions I'd be astonished to see the team have 4 new players starting, and certainly wouldn't be arbitrarily be shooting shit at Pardew if it doesn't. Nor would I even contemplate sacking him for a draw if he made the right subs, we played well, should have won, but got unlucky. Each to his own though, as you say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Marveaux is not a winger. Not in this league, anyway. Edit: Although I will say he may be able to work on the right if Debuchy were behind him. He wouldn't be playing as a winger any more than David Silva plays as a winger. And what's the alternatives in that wide forward role? Despite very promising recruitment of late, it remains a position we are extremely light in quality. Beyond Ben Arfa and hopefully Gouffran, what are we left with? Still Obertan, Sammy and Jonas? No thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I would say that the team very obviously picks itself for Tuesday and if it's anything other than the blatantly obvious and we don't win, then the manager has to be sacked immediately. Obviously I'd happily give him the bullet regardless but some people have convinced themselves that he deserves some sort of chance with these players. Fail to beat this Villa side and that should be chance over. What's this blatantly obvious team then? Krul; Debuchy, Coloccini, MYM, Santon, Sissoko, Anita, Cabaye, Gouffran, Marveaux, Cisse. Looks sexy, but I wouldn't say it's blatantly obvious. Personally I probably wouldn't see Gouffran out there, we need him as a striker option on the bench and feck knows whether he or the others can manage the full 90 minutes of a Prem game. Also considering they'll only be seeing 1 or 2 training sessions I'd be astonished to see the team have 4 new players starting, and certainly wouldn't be arbitrarily be shooting shit at Pardew if it doesn't. Nor would I even contemplate sacking him for a draw if he made the right subs, we played well, should have won, but got unlucky. Each to his own though, as you say. And if we play shit and lose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Is it time for kick off yet, this game is taking an eternity to arrive. I can't believe I've found myself looking forward to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fraser Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I would be a massive mistake to play Willo against Benteke and Agbonlahors pace, same with Taylor. If MYM is as fast as suggested would probably be best way to combat them Is Benteke rapid then? I've always seen him as a big lad with good touch. Likes to compete against full-backs when the ball's put in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I would say that the team very obviously picks itself for Tuesday and if it's anything other than the blatantly obvious and we don't win, then the manager has to be sacked immediately. Obviously I'd happily give him the bullet regardless but some people have convinced themselves that he deserves some sort of chance with these players. Fail to beat this Villa side and that should be chance over. What's this blatantly obvious team then? Krul; Debuchy, Coloccini, MYM, Santon, Sissoko, Anita, Cabaye, Gouffran, Marveaux, Cisse. Looks sexy, but I wouldn't say it's blatantly obvious. Personally I probably wouldn't see Gouffran out there, we need him as a striker option on the bench and feck knows whether he or the others can manage the full 90 minutes of a Prem game. Also considering they'll only be seeing 1 or 2 training sessions I'd be astonished to see the team have 4 new players starting, and certainly wouldn't be arbitrarily be shooting shit at Pardew if it doesn't. Nor would I even contemplate sacking him for a draw if he made the right subs, we played well, should have won, but got unlucky. Each to his own though, as you say. What are the alternatives to come into that front six? We still need serious recruitment this month if Gouffran isn't going to play there imo, because our options in those two positions either side of a front man are truly pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I think he'll find a place for jonas. I wouldn't be surprised if the idiot dropped Anita for him or even played 4-4-2 with marveaux on the wing. The 4-3-3 side mentioned looks spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I would say that the team very obviously picks itself for Tuesday and if it's anything other than the blatantly obvious and we don't win, then the manager has to be sacked immediately. Obviously I'd happily give him the bullet regardless but some people have convinced themselves that he deserves some sort of chance with these players. Fail to beat this Villa side and that should be chance over. What's this blatantly obvious team then? Krul; Debuchy, Coloccini, MYM, Santon, Sissoko, Anita, Cabaye, Gouffran, Marveaux, Cisse. Looks sexy, but I wouldn't say it's blatantly obvious. Personally I probably wouldn't see Gouffran out there, we need him as a striker option on the bench and feck knows whether he or the others can manage the full 90 minutes of a Prem game. Also considering they'll only be seeing 1 or 2 training sessions I'd be astonished to see the team have 4 new players starting, and certainly wouldn't be arbitrarily be shooting shit at Pardew if it doesn't. Nor would I even contemplate sacking him for a draw if he made the right subs, we played well, should have won, but got unlucky. Each to his own though, as you say. And if we play shit and lose? Thought that'd be fairly obvious. If there we no signs of new life in the team, like Wullie, I'd want him sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I would play: Krul Debuchy. Mbiwa. Coloccini. Santon Anita Cabaye. Sissoko Gouffran. Marveaux Cisse Normally i would like to see Marv centrally, but with HBA injured our wide options don't look good. And i think that when we're in possession Anita would thrive in his natural position spraying the ball around with Sissoko and Yocab in front of him. Marv would give quality service from the left even though it's not his best position, compared to Obertan/Jonas. Or play a central three like: Cabaye. Sissoko Marveaux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Honestly don't see Gouffran starting. He should, but I don't think he will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I would say that the team very obviously picks itself for Tuesday and if it's anything other than the blatantly obvious and we don't win, then the manager has to be sacked immediately. Obviously I'd happily give him the bullet regardless but some people have convinced themselves that he deserves some sort of chance with these players. Fail to beat this Villa side and that should be chance over. What's this blatantly obvious team then? Krul; Debuchy, Coloccini, MYM, Santon, Sissoko, Anita, Cabaye, Gouffran, Marveaux, Cisse. Looks sexy, but I wouldn't say it's blatantly obvious. Personally I probably wouldn't see Gouffran out there, we need him as a striker option on the bench and feck knows whether he or the others can manage the full 90 minutes of a Prem game. Also considering they'll only be seeing 1 or 2 training sessions I'd be astonished to see the team have 4 new players starting, and certainly wouldn't be arbitrarily be shooting shit at Pardew if it doesn't. Nor would I even contemplate sacking him for a draw if he made the right subs, we played well, should have won, but got unlucky. Each to his own though, as you say. And if we play shit and lose? Thought that'd be fairly obvious. If there we no signs of new life in the team, like Wullie, I'd want him sacked. Crikey, pretty strong for you. Not being sarcastic btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 From the players Wullie mentioned; Krul Debuchy MYM Coloccini Santon Sissoko Anita Marveaux Cabaye Gouffran Cisse Cabaye/Sissoko could play in either position. Marveaux isn't out on the wing and Cisse has someone to help him out with another midfielder behind them linking midfield and attack rather than leaving a huge gap. Both full back capable of getting forward. It would end up like that anyway at times i'd imagine as Gouffran when playing on the wing likes to come inside and when Marveaux plays outwide likes to come inside too. Sort of like how last season when we played 4-3-3 when Ben Arfa came off the wing, Ba would join Cisse in the box. I think that is how we would play long term with the 4-3-3 Ben Arfa would drift in wards as an AM and our wide forward would join Cisse in the box with the fullbacks raining crosses in. One can hope anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I would be a massive mistake to play Willo against Benteke and Agbonlahors pace, same with Taylor. If MYM is as fast as suggested would probably be best way to combat them Is Benteke rapid then? I've always seen him as a big lad with good touch. Likes to compete against full-backs when the ball's put in. I don't think he looks a slouch like. He looks a right handful and will probably face up against Colo with Gabby aiming for Willo/Taylor if either plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Can't remember the last time I was this excited for a game, excluding derbies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Can't remember the last time I was this excited for a game, excluding derbies. Same here, though it's a mix of excitement and dread. Excited to see the new players involved, scared shitless that we'll lose regardless and put ourselves really in deep shit. Must win really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I'd go with Cajun's team till Hatem comes back like. I want Marveaux playing the Dyer role in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I'm pretty confident we'll win. The calibre of players signed makes me feel a little arrogant towards the game no doubt it won't come anywhere near my expectations but I feel really comfortable in our defence now willo is benched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I would play: Krul Debuchy. Mbiwa. Coloccini. Santon Anita Cabaye. Sissoko Gouffran. Marveaux Cisse Normally i would like to see Marv centrally, but with HBA injured our wide options don't look good. And i think that when we're in possession Anita would thrive in his natural position spraying the ball around with Sissoko and Yocab in front of him. Marv would give quality service from the left even though it's not his best position, compared to Obertan/Jonas. Or play a central three like: Cabaye. Sissoko Marveaux That's the team there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I wish people would stop putting Marveaux wide in a front three, not his position at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I would say that the team very obviously picks itself for Tuesday and if it's anything other than the blatantly obvious and we don't win, then the manager has to be sacked immediately. Obviously I'd happily give him the bullet regardless but some people have convinced themselves that he deserves some sort of chance with these players. Fail to beat this Villa side and that should be chance over. What's this blatantly obvious team then? Krul; Debuchy, Coloccini, MYM, Santon, Sissoko, Anita, Cabaye, Gouffran, Marveaux, Cisse. I like it, but it's not blatantly obvious. It's any 11 from the above mentioned and Jonas & Taylor. Sounds obvious to me if they're the alternatives. I'd agree, but we all know that isn't necessarily how the man picking our team sees it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 The power of the début, you know what its like that first game seems to bring a little of everything from a player, not sure all four should start even though Santon needs a break. cannot see Haidara starting but Mbiwa, Sissoko and Gourffran should all start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I wish people would stop putting Marveaux wide in a front three, not his position at all. Then we're still in grave danger of going down. The two most important creative positions in the team and we have one player in the entire squad who can play there. And he's injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Could play a fairly narrow 4-2-3-1 Krul Deb Mbiwa Colo Santon Anita Cabaye Gouf Marv Siss Cisse Siss Marv and Cabaye fairly fluid positioning, Anita staying deepest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Don't call him Siss! Pleeease! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Villa fans are absolutely sure we've won Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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