arnonel Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 We totally lack any belief. Style/System aside, we dont have any plan, and dont have the belief to execute. Even Stoke of old look more organised. Pardew looks defeated, and we have had 1 game of the season. There should be renewed belief. There isnt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I'd rather have Kinnear at this point, Pardew offers us nothing so it's not like we're giving anything up. Me too. - For all his lies/mispronunciations/catatonic binge drinking, he's still more honest than Pardew - Less annoying - More entertaining as a character - More confident/ambitious - Remote possibility of a honeymoon period - Awarded manager of the year twice more than Pardew - Players might not hate him yet - One step closer to the next manager not being Joe Kinnear A reasonable assessment. Not sure he's less annoying though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 At this point could anyone genuinely say that Kinnear would be worse? It can't get much worse than the shit pardew is delivering I said during the close season that Kinnear would probably be an improvement, but it will still be a disgrace if he gets the job ahead of someone like Poyet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Pardew is way out of his depth at every level, just tried to list off his ineptitudes but realised I haven't the time to type it all out, I cannot think of a single positive I can attribute to him. Last nights result was innevitable, we all knew that, no one expected anything more, however it would have been nice if we at least tried for something more instead of just putting 11 "men" on the pitch as is our minimum requirement in a match! The people saying our next match will be the marker of where we really stand are deluding themselves, if we can't fire ourselves up to have a go at City knowing they won't be reviled for losing, how will we fire up for a match we're expected to win with the pressure on? If we play with last nights tactics we'll get buried again. Pardew has the front to stick this out to the bitter end and even then, when JFK inevitably replaces him, we'll be lucky to stay up. Sissoko, Anita, Ben Arfa, Colloccini, Marveaux, Tiote, Cisse, Santon, Krul, these are all good players, we've seen what they can do and with the right leadership I firmly believe they can be a top 8 team. Trouble is Pardew and Kinnear will never get the best out of them. I don't entirely blame Pardew and I don't entirely blame Kinnear, the whole mess is down to the owner and his complete ineptitude in running a club, he's in charge and he's the only one who has the power to correct the problems we have. The Oxford English definition of Fraud is a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities. Does that not sum Pardew up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Part of me clings to the hope that Ashley would not appoint Kinnear as manager because of his health. He has said before that he is in the best shape ever and then keeled over and if it happened again (and it would be stressful for him as manager because of the unrest it would cause amongst fans and media) and the it happened again, then would Ashley feel some responsibility? Then I think that JFK would be responsible for appointing the next manager and that is depressing again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Don't make me post the 'Kinnear is better than Capello' article again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Kinnear whether a sideways step or a step down is at least another step in the right direction. It would be 1 down, 1 more to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Be from 3-4 cunts down to two if Pardew went and followed Llambezee oot the door...we're facing a war of attrition with these arseholes until Ashley runs out of malice/patience/mates down the pub. Nobody wants Joe Kinnear as manager; it' just at the minute it feels as if were being offered a bear trap to the bollocks or a papercut to the bell. It's just that the paper cut to the bell is just as desirable as the other but goes about its unpopular work more subtly; with a notebook and nice suits and not a swivel-eyed drunken radgepacket like the beartrap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Could give Di Matteo the job until the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Could give Di Matteo the job until the end of the season. said this last year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Our only hope is JFK is not physically sound enough to take over on medical grounds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Our only hope is JFK is not physically sound enough to take over on medical grounds. i was wondering if they have to insure a manager? if there's anything like that there's surely little chance he'll be able to take the job? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Our only hope is JFK is not physically sound enough to take over on medical grounds. "fit as a fiddle" he wouldn't let anything stop him taking over and anyone who says it would be better than Pardew; lunatics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I can't understand why anyone would actually want Joe Kinnear as our manager. Closer to retirement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Be from 3-4 cunts down to two if Pardew went and followed Llambezee oot the door...we're facing a war of attrition with these arseholes until Ashley runs out of malice/patience/mates down the pub. Nobody wants Joe Kinnear as manager; it' just at the minute it feels as if were being offered a bear trap to the bollocks or a papercut to the bell. It's just that the paper cut to the bell is just as desirable as the other but goes about its unpopular work more subtly; with a notebook and nice suits and not a swivel-eyed drunken radgepacket like the beartrap. FFS man, as if today wasn't bad enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Twitter rumour. Alan Pardew here at the Lyon-Sociedad match this evening #nufc #OL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Could give Di Matteo the job until the end of the season. It has worked for another club before at least... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Twitter rumour. Alan Pardew here at the Lyon-Sociedad match this evening #nufc #OL Oh great, trying to sign another frenchy he can't motivate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Twitter rumour. Alan Pardew here at the Lyon-Sociedad match this evening #nufc #OL Oh great, trying to sign another frenchy he can't motivate. Or bull hater. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Twitter rumour. Alan Pardew here at the Lyon-Sociedad match this evening #nufc #OL Oh great, trying to sign another frenchy he can't motivate. or more than likely just taking in a match as he's in the area to bow and scrape to the almighty bloodsuckers agents of Cabaye or its made up bullshit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Where does the Poyet link with Ashley actually come from? He seems to be second place in the "we're bound to appoint..." stakes. I know he scored against us loads but I've never really understood why some Newcastle fans really dislike him. Is there something I've missed? I'd be more than happy to change Pardew for him. I don't understand the ins and outs of why he was sacked, but he did brilliantly at Brighton. Absolutely pissed League One, made some good signings and consolidated their Championship status, then got into the play-offs in his third season. Only a short managerial career so far but pretty flawless results-wise. Seems like a promising young manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I want Pardew replaced as much as anyone, but for this saying they would take Kinnear just think back to this game http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1090832/Newcastle-2-Stoke-2-Kinnear-dock-Faye-late-strike.html Probably the biggest balls up of dropped points of the entire relegation season. Team was cruising in the first half, an injury to Danny Guthrie and Kinnear decides to move 4 players out of position for the second half which resulted in headless chickens that threw away what should have been an easy win. The man is a lunatic and a dinosaur of a manager. I also don't want him taking over as I honestly think his heart couldn't take it, the result of which could be horrific. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I want Pardew replaced as much as anyone, but for this saying they would take Kinnear just think back to this game http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1090832/Newcastle-2-Stoke-2-Kinnear-dock-Faye-late-strike.html Probably the biggest balls up of dropped points of the entire relegation season. Team was cruising in the first half, an injury to Danny Guthrie and Kinnear decides to move 4 players out of position for the second half which resulted in headless chickens that threw away what should have been an easy win. The man is a lunatic and a dinosaur of a manager. I also don't want him taking over as I honestly think his heart couldn't take it, the result of which could be horrific. Yeah, there were many horror shows but that's always the one that sticks in my mind. Geremi (then Cacapa) and Jonas at CM in a 4-4-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Where does the Poyet link with Ashley actually come from? He seems to be second place in the "we're bound to appoint..." stakes. I know he scored against us loads but I've never really understood why some Newcastle fans really dislike him. Is there something I've missed? I'd be more than happy to change Pardew for him. I don't understand the ins and outs of why he was sacked, but he did brilliantly at Brighton. Absolutely p*ssed League One, made some good signings and consolidated their Championship status, then got into the play-offs in his third season. Only a short managerial career so far but pretty flawless results-wise. Seems like a promising young manager. He was on a sky sports prog just after kk quit under ashley...said he was asked about tge role but said not in tge current climate with all the protests etc...andy gray and the other wankers were sniggering Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I want Pardew replaced as much as anyone, but for this saying they would take Kinnear just think back to this game http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1090832/Newcastle-2-Stoke-2-Kinnear-dock-Faye-late-strike.html Probably the biggest balls up of dropped points of the entire relegation season. Team was cruising in the first half, an injury to Danny Guthrie and Kinnear decides to move 4 players out of position for the second half which resulted in headless chickens that threw away what should have been an easy win. The man is a lunatic and a dinosaur of a manager. I also don't want him taking over as I honestly think his heart couldn't take it, the result of which could be horrific. Yeah, there were many horror shows but that's always the one that sticks in my mind. Geremi (then Cacapa) and Jonas at CM in a 4-4-2. Habib Beye was on the wing too I think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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