Darth Crooks Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 He threw his toys out of the pram over finances? No alarm bells there for anyone? Good point but i'd rather a manager stood up to owners than let himself get bummed. Ashley wouldn't appoint Poyet if he stands up for himself. Yeah, but we have Ashley, that's the thing. So if the manager makes too much of a fuss he'll just be sacked. And chaos. Hence why i'm sticking with Pards, at least he's half coping with it off the pitch at the moment even though he knows things are f***ed up, just now his job to get things right on the pitch starting with tomorrow. hold on, hold on, you should probably flesh this out a bit with some facts Keegan walked out on him, took him to court and won. Fairly factual, Ashley's way or the highway. so totally the opposite of what was said and what i bolded then? Ashley would have sacked him regardless if Keegan walked or not. Keegan kicked up a fuss and chaos was caused from high up. That's what Ian was implying, Ashley wouldn't allow a manager to come in and do things his way, if he tried, like Keegan wanted to, he's gone, that simple. ian can imply whatever the f*** he likes, but ashley sacked allardyce for being s*** and signing people on mental contracts, keegan walked, and he sacked hughton because they wanted their own man in...and that's the sum of that really Own man? He appointed Hughton! suppose i meant a man he owns then...still, you're wrong... He owned Hughton, he was just a yes man exactly the same, i'm not really sure where you are going with your point here? If he wanted Hughton sacked, he should of upgraded, instead he just side stepped, some would argue downgraded. Clearly Hughton had developed an aspect of his character that Mike didn't like. A spine probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I genuinely think it would be hard to find a worse manager than pardew at the minute. It's at the point of actually insanity now, he hasn't the first clue what he is doing Hate to say it but I think you are in a classic downward spiral of crippling pessimism, bolstered by often plausible but ultimately false realities that I fear you believe are all too real in their consequences. You are at a stage now where I sadly fear there is no escape from your Pardew focussed dysphoric state as this forum just provides ample opportunity to maintain depression through constant defeatist re-enforcement and excessive rumination. .. also referred to as "REALITY". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Poyet won't be able to work 'til his disicplinary thing is sorted will he? Isn't all the talk of him based on him being Dennis Wise's mate and nowt else n all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 He threw his toys out of the pram over finances? No alarm bells there for anyone? Good point but i'd rather a manager stood up to owners than let himself get bummed. Ashley wouldn't appoint Poyet if he stands up for himself. Yeah, but we have Ashley, that's the thing. So if the manager makes too much of a fuss he'll just be sacked. And chaos. Hence why i'm sticking with Pards, at least he's half coping with it off the pitch at the moment even though he knows things are f***ed up, just now his job to get things right on the pitch starting with tomorrow. hold on, hold on, you should probably flesh this out a bit with some facts Keegan walked out on him, took him to court and won. Fairly factual, Ashley's way or the highway. so totally the opposite of what was said and what i bolded then? Ashley would have sacked him regardless if Keegan walked or not. Keegan kicked up a fuss and chaos was caused from high up. That's what Ian was implying, Ashley wouldn't allow a manager to come in and do things his way, if he tried, like Keegan wanted to, he's gone, that simple. ian can imply whatever the f*** he likes, but ashley sacked allardyce for being s*** and signing people on mental contracts, keegan walked, and he sacked hughton because they wanted their own man in...and that's the sum of that really Own man? He appointed Hughton! suppose i meant a man he owns then...still, you're wrong... He owned Hughton, he was just a yes man exactly the same, i'm not really sure where you are going with your point here? If he wanted Hughton sacked, he should of upgraded, instead he just side stepped, some would argue downgraded. hard to say, hughton seemed a half arsed effort that worked, obviously we now know that llamblias had huge influence and pardew is his mate so you have to assume (!) that llamblias was a major influence in events and told ashley (who clearly knows nothing, or cares less) that pardew was the man, which he then bought after the 5th and gave him a massive contract llamblias is now gone, and kinnear suggests pardew will follow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I genuinely think it would be hard to find a worse manager than pardew at the minute. It's at the point of actually insanity now, he hasn't the first clue what he is doing Hate to say it but I think you are in a classic downward spiral of crippling pessimism, bolstered by often plausible but ultimately false realities that I fear you believe are all too real in their consequences. You are at a stage now where I sadly fear there is no escape from your Pardew focussed dysphoric state as this forum just provides ample opportunity to maintain depression through constant defeatist re-enforcement and excessive rumination. Fuck all the long words - we're shit, it's his fault. Copyright DV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 He threw his toys out of the pram over finances? No alarm bells there for anyone? Good point but i'd rather a manager stood up to owners than let himself get bummed. Ashley wouldn't appoint Poyet if he stands up for himself. or anyone else who would object to the current transfer policy so that narrows it down to who? who the hell would work under these restraints because I sure as hell can't see Poyet doing it Poyet's out of work, why wouldn't he come? The question is would Ashley want him? Considering he's suing his former club for wrongful dismissal, probably not. So I guess we'll just keep fiddling on with a scout in France and a manager from the 1990's. because he could wait and get a better job elsewhere, he won't be short of offers when sacking season begins. Wouldn't be too sure of that like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I genuinely think it would be hard to find a worse manager than pardew at the minute. It's at the point of actually insanity now, he hasn't the first clue what he is doing Hate to say it but I think you are in a classic downward spiral of crippling pessimism, bolstered by often plausible but ultimately false realities that I fear you believe are all too real in their consequences. You are at a stage now where I sadly fear there is no escape from your Pardew focussed dysphoric state as this forum just provides ample opportunity to maintain depression through constant defeatist re-enforcement and excessive rumination. i think you know fuck all tbh...tell me, how many times have you a seen a manager recover a situation like pardew finds himself in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 He threw his toys out of the pram over finances? No alarm bells there for anyone? Good point but i'd rather a manager stood up to owners than let himself get bummed. Ashley wouldn't appoint Poyet if he stands up for himself. or anyone else who would object to the current transfer policy so that narrows it down to who? who the hell would work under these restraints because I sure as hell can't see Poyet doing it Poyet's out of work, why wouldn't he come? The question is would Ashley want him? Considering he's suing his former club for wrongful dismissal, probably not. So I guess we'll just keep fiddling on with a scout in France and a manager from the 1990's. because he could wait and get a better job elsewhere, he won't be short of offers when sacking season begins. Wouldn't be too sure of that like. a championship club would be a better job than here so he won't be short of better offers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I genuinely think it would be hard to find a worse manager than pardew at the minute. It's at the point of actually insanity now, he hasn't the first clue what he is doing Hate to say it but I think you are in a classic downward spiral of crippling pessimism, bolstered by often plausible but ultimately false realities that I fear you believe are all too real in their consequences. You are at a stage now where I sadly fear there is no escape from your Pardew focussed dysphoric state as this forum just provides ample opportunity to maintain depression through constant defeatist re-enforcement and excessive rumination. .. also referred to as "REALITY". "BALLS". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Poyet won't be able to work 'til his disicplinary thing is sorted will he? Isn't all the talk of him based on him being Dennis Wise's mate and nowt else n all He's a relatively successful lower league manager who plays decent football. Considering we won't pay for a proven top level manager these are the sort of appointments that Ashley could make on the cheap in the fanciful scenario that he was interested in getting a real manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I genuinely think it would be hard to find a worse manager than pardew at the minute. It's at the point of actually insanity now, he hasn't the first clue what he is doing Hate to say it but I think you are in a classic downward spiral of crippling pessimism, bolstered by often plausible but ultimately false realities that I fear you believe are all too real in their consequences. You are at a stage now where I sadly fear there is no escape from your Pardew focussed dysphoric state as this forum just provides ample opportunity to maintain depression through constant defeatist re-enforcement and excessive rumination. Fuck all the long words - we're shit, it's his fault. Copyright DV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Poyet won't be able to work 'til his disicplinary thing is sorted will he? Isn't all the talk of him based on him being Dennis Wise's mate and nowt else n all He's a relatively successful lower league manager who plays decent football. Considering we won't pay for a proven top level manager these are the sort of appointments that Ashley could make on the cheap in the fanciful scenario that he was interested in getting a real manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 It begins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Wasn't that yesterday quotes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I didn't see that Yesterday. Astounding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Wasn't that yesterday quotes? Yes he said that yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 @nufcfans: "Some of our players have worked a little bit harder than they should have, so we've got a couple of tired bodies." AP #NUFC Can't be real surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 At some point he'll say that we are missing the euro games as they added sharpness or summink...At that point the galaxy will be swallowed by a black hole. I wouldn't put it past him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 @nufcfans: "Some of our players have worked a little bit harder than they should have, so we've got a couple of tired bodies." AP #NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Definitely yesterday's quotes, he followed it by talking about knocks to Tiote and Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Lost 12 games since the turn of the year. Since November last year we've lost 21 games. Sack the living s*** out of him. this, is there honestly still anyone on here who doesn't believe he deserves the sack based purely on his performance over the last year? i know brett is one but is there anyone else? would love to see a poll like I can think of 3 who? inochi, ian w, brett? i don't think ian w and inochi would keep the fella like they just seem to revel in being contrary (might be wrong)....someone else is a bit pro-pards, happy face? By the way his performances from last season do deserve the sack just for the record, but i've just always maintained i wouldn't trust Ashley to hire someone to make me happy if he was ditched. Onnce decision was made to keep him, i decided to give him another season and another chance. So actually i do think in general Pardew's performances from last season should have earned him the sack under normal circumstances, but this club hasn’t got normal circumstances Talk about a contradiction of a post. If you are happy with a bloke you think should have been sacked , what difference does it make who is appointed? Because there's a difference, if i was a Spurs fan i'd have wanted Harry Redknapp sacked and AVB brought in, however i wouldn't have wanted Redknapp sacked if they weren't looking to upgrade. In our case we wouldn't be looking to upgrade, it would be someone like/deffo JFK, so i'd rather stick? I think you would be hard pressed to find a manager worse than Pardew tbh . I've actually named our next manager in my post if Pardew gets fired so i wouldn't say i'm hard pressed. He certainly isn't worse. I would guarantee you wouldn't see the cowardly tactics and performances that Pardew has been manufacturing. Incredible that you can be so sure Joe would be better. Not sure what the basis is for that conclusion. The point is, he's not likely to be worse. Replacing one dinosaur manager with another isn't really what's required, but at least we're a step further along the road. How will being a 'step further along the road', with all of the unrest that goes with it, help us to win football matches? If Kinnear is no worse, or better, than Pardew - what's the benefit? Because one more detestable cunt is out of the club? Are points awarded for that? Points aren't awarded for signing players either. I'd rather we did it, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Got a sneaky feeling he will be sacked shortly after the transfer window closes. Guy is drowning and it would take something special for him to turn it around now for me. Missed all the chat over the last few pages about who still backs Pardew etc but it might be good to know exactly who does and who doesn't, just so we know where we all stand on here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Only one thing could save his ass is many individual moments of magic from our players, cause we know for damn sure that it wont be fluid football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Poyet is bookies favourite ahead of Kinnear. FWIW. It's a logical choice but Ashley has a logic all of his own. If he can't work until his court case is settled that might explain why Pards hasn't been sacked yet. JFK is the insurance policy in case he walks. This is all desperate speculation here mind, so don't pull me up on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Tired bodies after the first competitive game of the season? Does this guy even hear himself? It's like he read the excuses thread and has taken notes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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