jdckelly Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Lost 12 games since the turn of the year. Since November last year we've lost 21 games. Sack the living s*** out of him. this, is there honestly still anyone on here who doesn't believe he deserves the sack based purely on his performance over the last year? i know brett is one but is there anyone else? would love to see a poll like I can think of 3 who? inochi, ian w, brett? i don't think ian w and inochi would keep the fella like they just seem to revel in being contrary (might be wrong)....someone else is a bit pro-pards, happy face? I'm willing to cut him a lot more slack because of the long reasons I got into a few pages ago (stream of consciousness just came out) and a genuine belief that he is a good manager <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=12294"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/MorganFreeman-bobbing.gif"></a> that gif is hypnotic. And yes I do believe all the ashley bullshit he has to put up with is a good manager who did underperform last year but under extenuating circumstances which would give most managers trouble. Will he get the chance to turn it around to prove he's good here? Probably not can't see him lasting until even October with his replacement already hanging around making a fool of himself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Lost 12 games since the turn of the year. Since November last year we've lost 21 games. Sack the living s*** out of him. this, is there honestly still anyone on here who doesn't believe he deserves the sack based purely on his performance over the last year? i know brett is one but is there anyone else? would love to see a poll like I can think of 3 who? inochi, ian w, brett? i don't think ian w and inochi would keep the fella like they just seem to revel in being contrary (might be wrong)....someone else is a bit pro-pards, happy face? By the way his performances from last season do deserve the sack just for the record, but i've just always maintained i wouldn't trust Ashley to hire someone to make me happy if he was ditched. Onnce decision was made to keep him, i decided to give him another season and another chance. So actually i do think in general Pardew's performances from last season should have earned him the sack under normal circumstances, but this club hasn’t got normal circumstances that's fair enough then really, i'm of the opinion he was so bad last season that he deserves to be fired come what may...worst comparison in the world i know but my work would fire me if i was s***, not worry about whether the next bloke was gonna be worse or not Yes but he hasn't been sacked so i'm not going to beat the drum going into a new season for him to be sacked. Rather get behind him and give him my backing and hope he manages to turn things around again, which i do genuinely believe he could do. Why do you think he can turn it around? There's nothing in his history that says he can? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Never has an opinion been so hard to understand. Gimp, write this down: I'd happily see Pardew replaced by a better manager. Unfortunately, that's simply not going to happen. So, we're stuck with him. I take issue with extreme negativity, so I comment on it, where I see fit, in a condescending, elitist manner. Of course it's going to happen. Probably not as soon as we would like, but his sheer incompetence means it's inevitable. We might not get a better manager you say? It would be pretty hard to avoid it IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 What Ashley bullshit? He signed up for this, this is his job, that he agreed to! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Lost 12 games since the turn of the year. Since November last year we've lost 21 games. Sack the living s*** out of him. this, is there honestly still anyone on here who doesn't believe he deserves the sack based purely on his performance over the last year? i know brett is one but is there anyone else? would love to see a poll like I can think of 3 who? inochi, ian w, brett? i don't think ian w and inochi would keep the fella like they just seem to revel in being contrary (might be wrong)....someone else is a bit pro-pards, happy face? By the way his performances from last season do deserve the sack just for the record, but i've just always maintained i wouldn't trust Ashley to hire someone to make me happy if he was ditched. Onnce decision was made to keep him, i decided to give him another season and another chance. So actually i do think in general Pardew's performances from last season should have earned him the sack under normal circumstances, but this club hasn’t got normal circumstances that's fair enough then really, i'm of the opinion he was so bad last season that he deserves to be fired come what may...worst comparison in the world i know but my work would fire me if i was s***, not worry about whether the next bloke was gonna be worse or not Yes but he hasn't been sacked so i'm not going to beat the drum going into a new season for him to be sacked. Rather get behind him and give him my backing and hope he manages to turn things around again, which i do genuinely believe he could do. Why do you think he can turn it around? There's nothing in his history that says he can? For the same reason people hope there's a heaven, it'd be nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Never has an opinion been so hard to understand. Gimp, write this down: I'd happily see Pardew replaced by a better manager. Unfortunately, that's simply not going to happen. So, we're stuck with him. I take issue with extreme negativity, so I comment on it, where I see fit, in a condescending, elitist way. same point i just put to brett, don't you think his own performance needs to be judged on what it is rather than the potential replacement we'd get if he was sacked? who we replace him with is not relevant imo, he's going to get us relegated Well, he's not, or at least I don't believe he will, but whatever. I'm not sure how the rest is relevant to my post, and I don't disagree with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I was wondering how bad we actually have to be for him to get sacked. Losing to Reading at home after a ridiculous run of defeats, then Sunderland, then Liverpool. Finishing 16th, losing 19 games, 9 of them at home, 68 goals conceded in the season. . Lucky man to still have it. Quite amazing he wasn't sacked to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Lost 12 games since the turn of the year. Since November last year we've lost 21 games. Sack the living s*** out of him. this, is there honestly still anyone on here who doesn't believe he deserves the sack based purely on his performance over the last year? i know brett is one but is there anyone else? would love to see a poll like I can think of 3 who? inochi, ian w, brett? i don't think ian w and inochi would keep the fella like they just seem to revel in being contrary (might be wrong)....someone else is a bit pro-pards, happy face? By the way his performances from last season do deserve the sack just for the record, but i've just always maintained i wouldn't trust Ashley to hire someone to make me happy if he was ditched. Onnce decision was made to keep him, i decided to give him another season and another chance. So actually i do think in general Pardew's performances from last season should have earned him the sack under normal circumstances, but this club hasn’t got normal circumstances Talk about a contradiction of a post. If you are happy with a bloke you think should have been sacked , what difference does it make who is appointed? Because there's a difference, if i was a Spurs fan i'd have wanted Harry Redknapp sacked and AVB brought in, however i wouldn't have wanted Redknapp sacked if they weren't looking to upgrade. In our case we wouldn't be looking to upgrade, it would be someone like/deffo JFK, so i'd rather stick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 What Ashley bullshit? He signed up for this, this is his job, that he agreed to! Yep, he's part of the Ashley bullshit not just a victim of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Never has an opinion been so hard to understand. Gimp, write this down: I'd happily see Pardew replaced by a better manager. Unfortunately, that's simply not going to happen. So, we're stuck with him. I take issue with extreme negativity, so I comment on it, where I see fit, in a condescending, elitist manner. Of course it's going to happen. Probably not as soon as we would like, but his sheer incompetence means it's inevitable. We might not get a better manager you say? It would be pretty hard to avoid it IMO. really? what manager better than Pardew will agree to work under JFK as DOF (and thats best case scenario) where he has no say whatsoever in the signing of players, where players will be sold underneath him and not replaced. Where we only bloody shop in the french league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Lost 12 games since the turn of the year. Since November last year we've lost 21 games. Sack the living s*** out of him. this, is there honestly still anyone on here who doesn't believe he deserves the sack based purely on his performance over the last year? i know brett is one but is there anyone else? would love to see a poll like I can think of 3 who? inochi, ian w, brett? i don't think ian w and inochi would keep the fella like they just seem to revel in being contrary (might be wrong)....someone else is a bit pro-pards, happy face? I'm willing to cut him a lot more slack because of the long reasons I got into a few pages ago (stream of consciousness just came out) and a genuine belief that he is a good manager <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=12294"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/MorganFreeman-bobbing.gif"></a> that gif is hypnotic. And yes I do believe all the ashley bullshit he has to put up with is a good manager who did underperform last year but under extenuating circumstances which would give most managers trouble. Will he get the chance to turn it around to prove he's good here? Probably not can't see him lasting until even October with his replacement already hanging around making a fool of himself The one thing i'd say is, he's proven not to be a good manager in other jobs before he lucked out to get this one, and after that lot and last season i dont see the "good manager" bit at all. But it is what it is until he's gone i suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Lost 12 games since the turn of the year. Since November last year we've lost 21 games. Sack the living s*** out of him. this, is there honestly still anyone on here who doesn't believe he deserves the sack based purely on his performance over the last year? i know brett is one but is there anyone else? would love to see a poll like I can think of 3 who? inochi, ian w, brett? i don't think ian w and inochi would keep the fella like they just seem to revel in being contrary (might be wrong)....someone else is a bit pro-pards, happy face? By the way his performances from last season do deserve the sack just for the record, but i've just always maintained i wouldn't trust Ashley to hire someone to make me happy if he was ditched. Onnce decision was made to keep him, i decided to give him another season and another chance. So actually i do think in general Pardew's performances from last season should have earned him the sack under normal circumstances, but this club hasn’t got normal circumstances Talk about a contradiction of a post. If you are happy with a bloke you think should have been sacked , what difference does it make who is appointed? Because there's a difference, if i was a Spurs fan i'd have wanted Harry Redknapp sacked and AVB brought in, however i wouldn't have wanted Redknapp sacked if they weren't looking to upgrade. In our case we wouldn't be looking to upgrade, it would be someone like/deffo JFK, so i'd rather stick? I think you would be hard pressed to find a manager worse than Pardew tbh . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I was wondering how bad we actually have to be for him to get sacked. I reckon the only thing that'll get Pardew the sack is if / when he stops toeing the party line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Lost 12 games since the turn of the year. Since November last year we've lost 21 games. Sack the living s*** out of him. this, is there honestly still anyone on here who doesn't believe he deserves the sack based purely on his performance over the last year? i know brett is one but is there anyone else? would love to see a poll like I can think of 3 who? inochi, ian w, brett? i don't think ian w and inochi would keep the fella like they just seem to revel in being contrary (might be wrong)....someone else is a bit pro-pards, happy face? By the way his performances from last season do deserve the sack just for the record, but i've just always maintained i wouldn't trust Ashley to hire someone to make me happy if he was ditched. Onnce decision was made to keep him, i decided to give him another season and another chance. So actually i do think in general Pardew's performances from last season should have earned him the sack under normal circumstances, but this club hasn’t got normal circumstances Talk about a contradiction of a post. If you are happy with a bloke you think should have been sacked , what difference does it make who is appointed? Because there's a difference, if i was a Spurs fan i'd have wanted Harry Redknapp sacked and AVB brought in, however i wouldn't have wanted Redknapp sacked if they weren't looking to upgrade. In our case we wouldn't be looking to upgrade, it would be someone like/deffo JFK, so i'd rather stick? I think you would be hard pressed to find a manager worse than Pardew tbh . I've actually named our next manager in my post if Pardew gets fired so i wouldn't say i'm hard pressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I was wondering how bad we actually have to be for him to get sacked. I reckon the only thing that'll get Pardew the sack is if / when he stops toeing the party line. Could be that yeah, Ashley has him because he trust him to an extent, he toes the party line in other words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Never has an opinion been so hard to understand. Gimp, write this down: I'd happily see Pardew replaced by a better manager. Unfortunately, that's simply not going to happen. So, we're stuck with him. I take issue with extreme negativity, so I comment on it, where I see fit, in a condescending, elitist manner. Of course it's going to happen. Probably not as soon as we would like, but his sheer incompetence means it's inevitable. We might not get a better manager you say? It would be pretty hard to avoid it IMO. really? what manager better than Pardew will agree to work under JFK as DOF (and thats best case scenario) where he has no say whatsoever in the signing of players, where players will be sold underneath him and not replaced. Where we only bloody shop in the french league. You could hire someone from the lower leagues who looks like he can put together a team that knocks it about quite well. That would be an immediate improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 What Ashley bullshit? He signed up for this, this is his job, that he agreed to! Yep, he's part of the Ashley bullshit not just a victim of it. let's look at the bullshit as well; in effect what he was asked to do was work under difficult circumstances (for arguably the first time here) between august and january at which point he was handed half a new team in that 6 months he folded, in every single way imagineable as a manager then when he was handed half a new team and had people coming back from injury he compounded his fail to the point that we more or less relied on bosingwa to keep us up let's not make out like he was given a bunch of kids to play last season, he just needed to be a good manager and none of it would have happened, but as it is he's a fucking terrible manager who is so rigid in every way he can only succeed when everything is right for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Lost 12 games since the turn of the year. Since November last year we've lost 21 games. Sack the living s*** out of him. this, is there honestly still anyone on here who doesn't believe he deserves the sack based purely on his performance over the last year? i know brett is one but is there anyone else? would love to see a poll like I can think of 3 who? inochi, ian w, brett? i don't think ian w and inochi would keep the fella like they just seem to revel in being contrary (might be wrong)....someone else is a bit pro-pards, happy face? By the way his performances from last season do deserve the sack just for the record, but i've just always maintained i wouldn't trust Ashley to hire someone to make me happy if he was ditched. Onnce decision was made to keep him, i decided to give him another season and another chance. So actually i do think in general Pardew's performances from last season should have earned him the sack under normal circumstances, but this club hasn’t got normal circumstances that's fair enough then really, i'm of the opinion he was so bad last season that he deserves to be fired come what may...worst comparison in the world i know but my work would fire me if i was s***, not worry about whether the next bloke was gonna be worse or not Yes but he hasn't been sacked so i'm not going to beat the drum going into a new season for him to be sacked. Rather get behind him and give him my backing and hope he manages to turn things around again, which i do genuinely believe he could do. Why do you think he can turn it around? There's nothing in his history that says he can? For the same reason people hope there's a heaven, it'd be nice. FWIW I'm an atheist. We've had this discussion many times before, usually Pardew has been sacked at this point... it's possible that he can improve given the chance he now has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Fwiw i dont ever remember us playing this badly making so few chances because of it (the two combined). We've had some terrible teams but at least threatened to score, Big Sam had us playing some shocking football but we did make chances. But under Pardew play badly and create next to nothing which is a big worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Lost 12 games since the turn of the year. Since November last year we've lost 21 games. Sack the living s*** out of him. this, is there honestly still anyone on here who doesn't believe he deserves the sack based purely on his performance over the last year? i know brett is one but is there anyone else? would love to see a poll like I can think of 3 who? inochi, ian w, brett? i don't think ian w and inochi would keep the fella like they just seem to revel in being contrary (might be wrong)....someone else is a bit pro-pards, happy face? By the way his performances from last season do deserve the sack just for the record, but i've just always maintained i wouldn't trust Ashley to hire someone to make me happy if he was ditched. Onnce decision was made to keep him, i decided to give him another season and another chance. So actually i do think in general Pardew's performances from last season should have earned him the sack under normal circumstances, but this club hasn’t got normal circumstances Talk about a contradiction of a post. If you are happy with a bloke you think should have been sacked , what difference does it make who is appointed? Because there's a difference, if i was a Spurs fan i'd have wanted Harry Redknapp sacked and AVB brought in, however i wouldn't have wanted Redknapp sacked if they weren't looking to upgrade. In our case we wouldn't be looking to upgrade, it would be someone like/deffo JFK, so i'd rather stick? I think you would be hard pressed to find a manager worse than Pardew tbh . I've actually named our next manager in my post if Pardew gets fired so i wouldn't say i'm hard pressed. Poyet is available. He'd not cost much, would work under Ashley's constraints I reckon, and can definitely produce better football than Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Lost 12 games since the turn of the year. Since November last year we've lost 21 games. Sack the living s*** out of him. this, is there honestly still anyone on here who doesn't believe he deserves the sack based purely on his performance over the last year? i know brett is one but is there anyone else? would love to see a poll like I can think of 3 who? inochi, ian w, brett? i don't think ian w and inochi would keep the fella like they just seem to revel in being contrary (might be wrong)....someone else is a bit pro-pards, happy face? By the way his performances from last season do deserve the sack just for the record, but i've just always maintained i wouldn't trust Ashley to hire someone to make me happy if he was ditched. Onnce decision was made to keep him, i decided to give him another season and another chance. So actually i do think in general Pardew's performances from last season should have earned him the sack under normal circumstances, but this club hasn’t got normal circumstances that's fair enough then really, i'm of the opinion he was so bad last season that he deserves to be fired come what may...worst comparison in the world i know but my work would fire me if i was s***, not worry about whether the next bloke was gonna be worse or not Yes but he hasn't been sacked so i'm not going to beat the drum going into a new season for him to be sacked. Rather get behind him and give him my backing and hope he manages to turn things around again, which i do genuinely believe he could do. Why do you think he can turn it around? There's nothing in his history that says he can? For the same reason people hope there's a heaven, it'd be nice. FWIW I'm an atheist. We've had this discussion many times before, usually Pardew has been sacked at this point... it's possible that he can improve given the chance he now has. Possible yeah. He's done though, he was done after Reading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Lost 12 games since the turn of the year. Since November last year we've lost 21 games. Sack the living s*** out of him. this, is there honestly still anyone on here who doesn't believe he deserves the sack based purely on his performance over the last year? i know brett is one but is there anyone else? would love to see a poll like I can think of 3 who? inochi, ian w, brett? i don't think ian w and inochi would keep the fella like they just seem to revel in being contrary (might be wrong)....someone else is a bit pro-pards, happy face? By the way his performances from last season do deserve the sack just for the record, but i've just always maintained i wouldn't trust Ashley to hire someone to make me happy if he was ditched. Onnce decision was made to keep him, i decided to give him another season and another chance. So actually i do think in general Pardew's performances from last season should have earned him the sack under normal circumstances, but this club hasn’t got normal circumstances Talk about a contradiction of a post. If you are happy with a bloke you think should have been sacked , what difference does it make who is appointed? Because there's a difference, if i was a Spurs fan i'd have wanted Harry Redknapp sacked and AVB brought in, however i wouldn't have wanted Redknapp sacked if they weren't looking to upgrade. In our case we wouldn't be looking to upgrade, it would be someone like/deffo JFK, so i'd rather stick? I think you would be hard pressed to find a manager worse than Pardew tbh . I've actually named our next manager in my post if Pardew gets fired so i wouldn't say i'm hard pressed. He certainly isn't worse. I would guarantee you wouldn't see the cowardly tactics and performances that Pardew has been manufacturing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Fwiw i dont ever remember us playing this badly making so few chances because of it (the two combined). We've had some terrible teams but at least threatened to score, Big Sam had us playing some shocking football but we did make chances. But under Pardew play badly and create next to nothing which is a big worry. i HONESTLY believe that if you removed pardew immediately and let one of the senior players decide tactics and selection we'd be no worse off, this is how bad the guy is and how deep his negativity pervades Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Lost 12 games since the turn of the year. Since November last year we've lost 21 games. Sack the living s*** out of him. this, is there honestly still anyone on here who doesn't believe he deserves the sack based purely on his performance over the last year? i know brett is one but is there anyone else? would love to see a poll like I can think of 3 who? inochi, ian w, brett? i don't think ian w and inochi would keep the fella like they just seem to revel in being contrary (might be wrong)....someone else is a bit pro-pards, happy face? By the way his performances from last season do deserve the sack just for the record, but i've just always maintained i wouldn't trust Ashley to hire someone to make me happy if he was ditched. Onnce decision was made to keep him, i decided to give him another season and another chance. So actually i do think in general Pardew's performances from last season should have earned him the sack under normal circumstances, but this club hasn’t got normal circumstances Talk about a contradiction of a post. If you are happy with a bloke you think should have been sacked , what difference does it make who is appointed? Because there's a difference, if i was a Spurs fan i'd have wanted Harry Redknapp sacked and AVB brought in, however i wouldn't have wanted Redknapp sacked if they weren't looking to upgrade. In our case we wouldn't be looking to upgrade, it would be someone like/deffo JFK, so i'd rather stick? I think you would be hard pressed to find a manager worse than Pardew tbh . I've actually named our next manager in my post if Pardew gets fired so i wouldn't say i'm hard pressed. He certainly isn't worse. I would guarantee you wouldn't see the cowardly tactics and performances that Pardew has been manufacturing. Incredible that you can be so sure Joe would be better. Not sure what the basis is for that conclusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Lost 12 games since the turn of the year. Since November last year we've lost 21 games. Sack the living s*** out of him. this, is there honestly still anyone on here who doesn't believe he deserves the sack based purely on his performance over the last year? i know brett is one but is there anyone else? would love to see a poll like I can think of 3 who? inochi, ian w, brett? i don't think ian w and inochi would keep the fella like they just seem to revel in being contrary (might be wrong)....someone else is a bit pro-pards, happy face? By the way his performances from last season do deserve the sack just for the record, but i've just always maintained i wouldn't trust Ashley to hire someone to make me happy if he was ditched. Onnce decision was made to keep him, i decided to give him another season and another chance. So actually i do think in general Pardew's performances from last season should have earned him the sack under normal circumstances, but this club hasn’t got normal circumstances Talk about a contradiction of a post. If you are happy with a bloke you think should have been sacked , what difference does it make who is appointed? Because there's a difference, if i was a Spurs fan i'd have wanted Harry Redknapp sacked and AVB brought in, however i wouldn't have wanted Redknapp sacked if they weren't looking to upgrade. In our case we wouldn't be looking to upgrade, it would be someone like/deffo JFK, so i'd rather stick? I think you would be hard pressed to find a manager worse than Pardew tbh . I've actually named our next manager in my post if Pardew gets fired so i wouldn't say i'm hard pressed. Poyet is available. He'd not cost much, would work under Ashley's constraints I reckon, and can definitely produce better football than Pardew. He'll have to have a change of brain then. Poyet is prone to play very much safety first, even at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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