Smal Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Think Rooney needs to move on for his own good anyway. Even if it's just to Chelsea. If they use him as a #9 he's guaranteed 25+ goals in that team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Think Rooney needs to move on for his own good anyway. Even if it's just to Chelsea. If they use him as a #9 he's guaranteed 25+ goals in that team. What were utd using him as before RVP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 It's funny that I'm sitting watching videos of him speaking after todays game etc thinking what a canny chap he is and how much I'll miss him next season. It was only a few days ago I was jumping for joy to see the back of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 http://www.ongoalsscored.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/manager-changes-2.png Brilliant chart. Can I use this on FB? Asking as I don't know the source. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I've decided to compile an Alex Ferguson best Manchester United XI. 1. Webb 2. Poll 3. Durkin 4. Clattenburg 5. Wiley 6. Elleray 7. Rennie 8. Dowd 9. Halsey 10. Foy 11. Marriner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 40% - Of all managers he has faced over 10 times in the Premier League, Sir Alex Ferguson has the worst win rate against Kevin Keegan. Era. ( ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 http://www.ongoalsscored.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/manager-changes-2.png Brilliant chart. Can I use this on FB? Asking as I don't know the source. Cheers. Just reminded me that Liverpool tried to have Roy Evans and Gerard Houllier as joint-managers Genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Think Rooney needs to move on for his own good anyway. Even if it's just to Chelsea. If they use him as a #9 he's guaranteed 25+ goals in that team. What were utd using him as before RVP? Scored 34 last season. The last time they played him as a proper #9 he also scored 34 (2009-10). He's a fantastic goalscorer if used as one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Brilliant chart. Can I use this on FB? Asking as I don't know the source. Cheers. You've probably already done it but by all means use it. Quote this website too: www.ongoalsscored.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 On another note, was the Man U victory parade today. It went past work, urgh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Think Rooney needs to move on for his own good anyway. Even if it's just to Chelsea. If they use him as a #9 he's guaranteed 25+ goals in that team. What were utd using him as before RVP? Scored 34 last season. The last time they played him as a proper #9 he also scored 34 (2009-10). He's a fantastic goalscorer if used as one. He's a fantastic everything which is part of the problem. If he wasn't so good in other positions he wouldn't be shifted to facilitate others who are slightly better in a specific position, i.e. RVP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Different take on Ferguson to anything thats been printed in the last couple of weeks below. Don't agree with it at all myself, although I do think it is true that he was ready to rip his own club apart over some horse spunk, in sharp contrast to the selfless "leave the club in good hands" mentality thats been written about so much recently. I’ve been waiting till all the hoo haa died down before posting this but a decade ago, I was more or less a lone voice amongst United fans (match going, armchair or otherwise) who thought that ‘Sir’ Alex Ferguson should have retired back when he orginally decided enough was enough. History has proved me wrong perhaps, but I think the past decade has been a disaster for United in cultural if not economic terms. For all his ‘socialist’ pretensions, Alex used the past decade to feather his own nest and secure his own interests above those of the club. In doing so, he laid the foundation for the take over by the Glazers, a family who he has diplomatically courted since they ousted those who Fergy felt were impeding his control. It was Fergie who engineered the Coolmore Mafia share buy out in order to see off Martin Edwards, then almost destroyed the club with his greedy machinations over the stud fee farce. His kingdom for a horse? McManus and Magnier were then targeted by the paramilitary ‘Manchester Education Committee’ wing of the hardcore United fans. Using Ultra style direct action tactics probably achieved more than a thousand futile petitions and Shareholders United comminques. The MEC mobilised fans in a new area for British teams, relying on the Ultra tactic of making it very uncomfortable for directors, players, potential owners or anyone else who they felt worked against the iterests of the club. Coolmore went back to the races. Yet the MEC and other fans groups played right into Fergies hands, a man who used his own son to conduct transfers, a man who then boycotted the BBC for daring to report on this conflict of interests. A man who talked the talk of the Govan shipyard shop steward and then accepted a knighthood from the very apex of the establishment power base that keeps the working class down. Let’s not get tied up in relativist arguments here; the Queen is the enemy of the working class and ANYONE who professes to be a socialist yet bows before her is a CLASS TRAITOR. Simple as. But these aren’t the biggest of Fergie’s flaws. His notorious temper has cost United two Champions Leagues trophies in my opinion. Beckham I can live with, a player always over-hyped by his agents to levels beyond his actual talent. His pampering of ‘King’ Eric was perhaps understandable yet smacked of hypocrisy when dealing with other wayward players. Likewise that other self-proclaimed ‘Man Of The People’ Roy Keane was allowed to kick, stamp and mutilate opponants yet received plaudits as some kind of folk hero. The same man was allowed to break the club’s wage structure paving the way for yet more inflated ticket prices. The prawn sandwich brigade eh Roy? Well, you brought em in mate! In his latter seasons, Keane most reminded me of Ray Wilkins with his crab like tendency to simply knock the ball sideways. Compared to the ever brilliant Scholes, Keane was second rate and like many talismen before him, Bryan Robson, Steve Bruce for example, he’s been an utter failure as a manager. Still, there’s always room for failed managers as ‘ambassadors’ at United and lucrative backhanders to boot. NO, even more than these players, Fergie’s ruthless and petulent sale of Jaap Stam cost United most dearly. An obviously devastated Stam paid the ultimate price for daring to have a little dig at ‘the gaffer’ although ofcourse ‘the gaffer’ could have very big pops at decent men like Brian Kidd in HIS biography. Fergie knows that with the resources at his disposal and the players he’s had over the years, it should’ve been easy to topple Liverpool’s European Cup/Champions League record. Yes, they’ve topped their league trophy record and domestically, Fergie has no equal managing to balance youth and experience, personalities and egos, ambition and apathy, commerce and culture. Yet those finals agaisnt Barca probably still haunt him, the chasm between the Spanish and English champions being as wide as that between his wallet and that of the average Stretford Ender. So, not to be churlish or deliberately provocative, I would also like to praise Alex Ferguson as The Last Of The Mohicans, the type of mananger who embodied that stern Calvinist ethos of other Scots; Shankly, Stein and Busby, men who had actually worked their way up from the coal face and the shipyards and therefore had no time for the histrionics of millionaire playboys. Moyes is indeed a chip off the old block but times have changed and no manager will ever again be allowed the same time it took Fergsuon to establish United as a seious footballing force. Just as football fans are used to lectures on sentimentality from managers eager to offload players who are past their prime, so too we should reserve the same hard headed pragmatism for managers, however much they have achieved. Liverpool did it with Saint Bill Shankly because they knew Shanks had taken them to a certain position but Paisley could conquer Europe. Likewise United now need a manager who can field a side that can compete with Barca, Bayern, Real, Inter and somehow I don’t think Moyes is that man. I come not to bury Sir Alex but let’s have it right; he’s now secured his power base at the club by a mixture of silverware and slippery dealings. When all’s said and done, Fergie knows what side his bread’s buttered and will make sure he’s taking his slice home with jam on. http://yerknowthedance.wordpress.com/ I think the rumour shortly after the time was that Stam had been peddled after Man United got wind that a large number of the Dutch squad were taking nandrolone, including Stam. He was banned shortly after the transfer, and I think Davids and de Boer were as well. In fact, having read it again it really is a crap article, but it does go to show the slightly strained relationship some Man United supporters had with the man who gave them everything yet openly pandered to the Glazers. Often thought it strange that they never had a chant for him, not one that I ever heard anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 40% - Of all managers he has faced over 10 times in the Premier League, Sir Alex Ferguson has the worst win rate against Kevin Keegan. Era. ( ) Super Kevin Keegan! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2330215/Mike-Phelan-Eric-Steele-set-sacked-Manchester-United.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Not going all that well, is it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 We need to play them before thry remember how to play football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Didn't expect it to go this badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I'm looking forward to the tabloids sticking the boot in with unnamed sources going on about things they used to do under Fergie. They'll have to eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 It going as bad as it realistically could and it's glorious. An upturn in form isn't guaranteed at all either which is also glorious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 He was a brave if risky choice but ultimately is at best above average as a manager and a club like Man Utd demands the very best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 He never looked like an 'above average' manager at Everton, like. Not over any significant period. He's a very good manager who'll get it right there if given time. Hope he doesn't, though. It's fun seeing these spoilt fuckers whinge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 He never looked like an 'above average' manager at Everton, like. Not over any significant period. He's a very good manager who'll get it right there if given time. Hope he doesn't, though. It's fun seeing these spoilt f***ers whinge. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 This is glorious, long, long overdue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 A bit of a coward. The subs he made cost them the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 It cannot be doing Moyes any good to have Ferguson still stalking the corridors at home games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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