jdckelly Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/9774272/fa-home-grown-rules-man-city-arsenal-chelsea-would-lose-players?utm_source=twitterfeed_Newcastle&utm_medium=facebook not a hope in hell the prem clubs will agree to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Classic reasoning by Ricky Sbragia - http://sport.stv.tv/football/international/314939-real-madrids-jack-harper-is-a-luxury-player-says-scotland-u19-coach/ Disgusting approach to youth football, should be sacked. "In some cases, if it's going well, he can be a good luxury. And listen, Jack's time will come" Sounds like someone we know also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Ridiculous way to approach U19 football. "I've gone for a physical side and runners" FFS. Sure Scotland will be grateful for that in 5 years time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Ridiculous way to approach U19 football. "I've gone for a physical side and runners" FFS. Sure Scotland will be grateful for that in 5 years time. At some level though, results are important at this level. Going to European Championships would be a great experience for the youth players to play against the best of the continent, experience a real competitive atmosphere, and build relationships that could be vital if players ever reach the national team together. Of course, you can say that the inability to include Harper is just a representation of Sbragia's tactical deficiencies, which is probably correct tbf , but I don't think the mentality is necessarily incorrect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Classic reasoning by Ricky Sbragia - http://sport.stv.tv/football/international/314939-real-madrids-jack-harper-is-a-luxury-player-says-scotland-u19-coach/ Disgusting approach to youth football, should be sacked. "In some cases, if it's going well, he can be a good luxury. And listen, Jack's time will come" Sounds like someone we know also Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Ridiculous way to approach U19 football. "I've gone for a physical side and runners" FFS. Sure Scotland will be grateful for that in 5 years time. At some level though, results are important at this level. Going to European Championships would be a great experience for the youth players to play against the best of the continent, experience a real competitive atmosphere, and build relationships that could be vital if players ever reach the national team together. Of course, you can say that the inability to include Harper is just a representation of Sbragia's tactical deficiencies, which is probably correct tbf , but I don't think the mentality is necessarily incorrect. At that stage all that should matter is developing the kids talents, everything else is an after thought. at U21 level maybe because they are pro's at that point but anything else before that results shouldn't really be considered above development. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hanshithispantz Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Ridiculous way to approach U19 football. "I've gone for a physical side and runners" FFS. Sure Scotland will be grateful for that in 5 years time. At some level though, results are important at this level. Going to European Championships would be a great experience for the youth players to play against the best of the continent, experience a real competitive atmosphere, and build relationships that could be vital if players ever reach the national team together. Of course, you can say that the inability to include Harper is just a representation of Sbragia's tactical deficiencies, which is probably correct tbf , but I don't think the mentality is necessarily incorrect. At that stage all that should matter is developing the kids talents, everything else is an after thought. at U21 level maybe because they are pro's at that point but anything else before that results shouldn't really be considered above development. Like Baba says though, if they don't get results then the experience is limited. Sbragia's outlook is appalling but you still have to build a team capable of winning at that level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I forgot you can only win games with running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I don't think this has been mentioned: Giovanni van Bronckhorst was announced as Feyenoord manager starting next season yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I forgot you can only win games with running. It's the Scotland U-19s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I forgot you can only win games with running. It's the Scotland U-19s. The reason we're stuck in this Scottish mess of s**** youth players being trained to be s**** and becoming s**** is because of this type of management. "We'll never win by playing properly, maybe if we run and tackle loads we'll not lose". It's an endless cycle of s***. They are just as likely to win by playing actual football, but the managers don't know how, so they claim it's just 'something they have to do'. Bullshit. Leaving the Real Madrid youth captain out is blood-boilingly f***ing annoying and stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Classic reasoning by Ricky Sbragia - http://sport.stv.tv/football/international/314939-real-madrids-jack-harper-is-a-luxury-player-says-scotland-u19-coach/ Disgusting approach to youth football, should be sacked. "In some cases, if it's going well, he can be a good luxury. And listen, Jack's time will come" Sounds like someone we know also What the fuck is happening in British coaching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 IN generally there's way too much focus on winning in grassroots football. Up until about 18, the biggest, fastest and strongest teams will win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I forgot you can only win games with running. It's the Scotland U-19s. The reason we're stuck in this Scottish mess of s**** youth players being trained to be s**** and becoming s**** is because of this type of management. "We'll never win by playing properly, maybe if we run and tackle loads we'll not lose". It's an endless cycle of s***. They are just as likely to win by playing actual football, but the managers don't know how, so they claim it's just 'something they have to do'. Bullshit. Leaving the Real Madrid youth captain out is blood-boilingly f***ing annoying and stupid. Aye I agree, I was jurst jesting. I don't agree with Mole that "at that stage all that should matter is developing the kids talents" though. At this stage all that should matter is qualifying, actually playing in Greece will be far more beneficial to player development than a qualifier against the Czech Republic. Spragia's way of going about it is obviously backwards and wrong like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 As if we'll start playing football when/if we get there? All he's doing is developing the next Greenock Morton midfielders of this world. We have Jack fucking Harper, one of the top young talents in the world, and he's been left out for shite, minging guys from Dunfermline and that. Sick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben-nufc Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 As if leaving your best player out can be in any way a positive move. Imagine Wales leaving Bale out because he doesn't track back? It's almost exactly like the Pardew/Ben-Arfa situation. Shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I forgot you can only win games with running. It's the Scotland U-19s. The reason we're stuck in this Scottish mess of s**** youth players being trained to be s**** and becoming s**** is because of this type of management. "We'll never win by playing properly, maybe if we run and tackle loads we'll not lose". It's an endless cycle of s***. They are just as likely to win by playing actual football, but the managers don't know how, so they claim it's just 'something they have to do'. Bullshit. Leaving the Real Madrid youth captain out is blood-boilingly f***ing annoying and stupid. Aye I agree, I was jurst jesting. I don't agree with Mole that "at that stage all that should matter is developing the kids talents" though. At this stage all that should matter is qualifying, actually playing in Greece will be far more beneficial to player development than a qualifier against the Czech Republic. Spragia's way of going about it is obviously backwards and wrong like. But you can't just turn it on and off. It's culturally ingrained. You give it your best go doing it the right way, if it doesn't work it isn't the end of the world. You'll do the same for the next tournament but better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I haven't even said anything contrary to any of this, man, I've even said Spragia's decision is backwards, wrong and that his outlook is appalling All I was saying was that results aid development at that level so you still have to pick a team you feel is best for each fixture. It's a bit of a moot point with Scotland and Spragia but I wasn't solely talking about those, just in general. Again, here Spragia's decision is obviously backwards and wrong and his outlook is appalling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 IN generally there's way too much focus on winning in grassroots football. Up until about 18, the biggest, fastest and strongest teams will win. My goodness. I absolutely agree 100% with this. The problem, or one of, is that kids go onto full size pitches way too early here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 The fuck is Sbragia even doing coaching the Scotland U19s? Who the hell thought that was a good idea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Can't hear Sbragia's name without thinking of that RTG poster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Can't hear Sbragia's name without thinking of that RTG poster Likewise. Funny fucker he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I must have missed that who/what was it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Ah man, surely you seen that guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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