mozy Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 The only problem is that he (Perez) hasn't found his best position / role yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 How is Perez overrated? He's a good player, but not as good as our lowered expectations make him out to be? Personally disagree, I mean how I compare him to other players past or present hasn't been effected by the lowering of expectations at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I think this is Perez's biggest problem. He's very good but he hasn't excelled in one position. He's still young though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Cannot remember that antz, what happened again? Anyway was Remy ever disruptive? He didn't want to be here, clearly, but he wasn't a trouble maker afik. He's had his dream move and it's failed for him though, he's 29, he'd probably just have to accept that we're his level. Remy himself announced he didnt want to play at Liverpool as we had nowt to play for. Said it wasnt worth getting injured or something, the King denied it all like to save his own skin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Cannot remember that antz, what happened again? Anyway was Remy ever disruptive? He didn't want to be here, clearly, but he wasn't a trouble maker afik. He's had his dream move and it's failed for him though, he's 29, he'd probably just have to accept that we're his level. Remy himself announced he didnt want to play at Liverpool as we had nowt to play for. Said it wasnt worth getting injured or something, the King denied it all like to save his own skin. Remy was probably right. It's not like we had anything to play for and he was only here on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Fair enough. See, I think that our current bang average squad of players has a few good players in it. Some very good. I would class Perez as a good player, nothing more nothing less, but over the past year or so I've seen plenty of comments on here and on Twitter about how he's going to go on and play for team X Y Z. I don't see it personally. I think he's going to be a good premier league player, but not an outstanding top tier player. Hey... I hope he proves me wrong though and goes on to become a great player for us. Well its all about opinions but I'd agree with the people who think he looks like a very classy player with massive potential. I struggle to remember many players we've had who have such a great first touch and his level of technique. Doesn't mean he's great at everything, but when he takes the ball and turns it just looks so natural, IMO our most talented player especially considering he's only 22. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Cannot remember that antz, what happened again? Anyway was Remy ever disruptive? He didn't want to be here, clearly, but he wasn't a trouble maker afik. He's had his dream move and it's failed for him though, he's 29, he'd probably just have to accept that we're his level. Remy himself announced he didnt want to play at Liverpool as we had nowt to play for. Said it wasnt worth getting injured or something, the King denied it all like to save his own skin. Remy was probably right. It's not like we had anything to play for and he was only here on loan. Not really the point like, not up to the players to decide if they fancy turning up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Cannot remember that antz, what happened again? Anyway was Remy ever disruptive? He didn't want to be here, clearly, but he wasn't a trouble maker afik. He's had his dream move and it's failed for him though, he's 29, he'd probably just have to accept that we're his level. Remy himself announced he didnt want to play at Liverpool as we had nowt to play for. Said it wasnt worth getting injured or something, the King denied it all like to save his own skin. Remy was probably right. It's not like we had anything to play for and he was only here on loan. Not really the point like, not up to the players to decide if they fancy turning up We were a particularly bad club to play for back then with our only concern being getting value for money on transfers and avoiding relegation. Can't really blame players for not giving a shit when we clearly didn't ourselves. Maybe it would be different this time round now that we are actually spending money on players and allegedly trying to win something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Cannot remember that antz, what happened again? Anyway was Remy ever disruptive? He didn't want to be here, clearly, but he wasn't a trouble maker afik. He's had his dream move and it's failed for him though, he's 29, he'd probably just have to accept that we're his level. Remy himself announced he didnt want to play at Liverpool as we had nowt to play for. Said it wasnt worth getting injured or something, the King denied it all like to save his own skin. Remy was probably right. It's not like we had anything to play for and he was only here on loan. Not really the point like, not up to the players to decide if they fancy turning up We were a particularly bad club to play for back then with our only concern being getting value for money on transfers and avoiding relegation. Can't really blame players for not giving a shit when we clearly didn't ourselves. Maybe it would be different this time round now that we are actually spending money on players and allegedly trying to win something. God bless those poor players, must be terrible for them enduring such torrid working conditions and pitiful salaries. Utter madness to expect them to have any self respect at all really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Perez is a totally different player to Berahino, he's being used more as a midfielder than a striker. Probably because he is one, becomes increasingly obvious each week that he's an attacking midfielder with excellent technique who is capable of scoring in double figures than a forward IMO. In any case, good though Perez is, we could really use a pacy striker who can get in behind defences, and Berahino would give us something we haven't got at the moment. Aye i'm not disagreeing at all, i want Berahino but i obviously want Perez as well. There's no reason why it should have to be an either/or situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 To be honest when a player is being paid to play Football you can absolutely blame them for refusing to play no matter how callous the club might be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Perez is a totally different player to Berahino, he's being used more as a midfielder than a striker. Probably because he is one, becomes increasingly obvious each week that he's an attacking midfielder with excellent technique who is capable of scoring in double figures than a forward IMO. In any case, good though Perez is, we could really use a pacy striker who can get in behind defences, and Berahino would give us something we haven't got at the moment. Aye i'm not disagreeing at all, i want Berahino but i obviously want Perez as well. There's no reason why it should have to be an either/or situation. Yeah, Perez is too good to be sacrificing to bring someone else in. Berahino would add to rather than replace our striking options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 To be honest when a player is being paid to play Football you can absolutely blame them for refusing to play no matter how callous the club might be. Well our club didn't so that tells you a lot about our aims back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Definitely, the likes of Remy, Pardew and Ashley belong together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Perez is a totally different player to Berahino, he's being used more as a midfielder than a striker. Probably because he is one, becomes increasingly obvious each week that he's an attacking midfielder with excellent technique who is capable of scoring in double figures than a forward IMO. In any case, good though Perez is, we could really use a pacy striker who can get in behind defences, and Berahino would give us something we haven't got at the moment. Aye i'm not disagreeing at all, i want Berahino but i obviously want Perez as well. There's no reason why it should have to be an either/or situation. Yeah, Perez is too good to be sacrificing to bring someone else in. Berahino would add to rather than replace our striking options. Aye we basically have Perez and Mitrovic and that's it No other club in the league would be content with that amount of serviceable forwards or consider only adding one to replace another one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I find it strange that at least 3 newspapers are convinced that we will break out transfer record. Have they been tipped off or is it just guesswork? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Berahino is an odious little shite and I don't want him anywhere near this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 So was Bellamy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Berahino is an odious little s**** and I don't want him anywhere near this club. Some of the best players we have had in my life time have had apparent issues with attitude. I'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt if he were to join. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 So was Bellamy. Bellamy didn't cost £18 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Well what's that got to do with him being odious? The money's there, it's been there for ages and it's about time it was spent on quality so we don't have to endure listless shites like Alsoran scampering around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 So was Bellamy. This is the real quiz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Berainho would be dead good. Worth not getting just to avoid the misspelling's when McLaren doesn't pick him for the games when we loose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 So was Bellamy. Bellamy didn't cost £18 million. Bellamy cost £6.5m in 2001. I don't have 'average fee' data over the years, so I thought I'd reference the British transfer record instead. At that time Rio Ferdinand was the most expensive British transfer at £29,100,000. Nowadays that record goes to Gareth Bale, at £85,300,000. That is 2.93 times how much Rio cost. Bellamy's £6.5m * 2.93 = £19,053,265. So you're right. We shouldn't be paying £18m, we should be paying £19m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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