Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Win-win for him. Southampton ain't going to go much higher, Everton are only going to go up from last season. Do well again, move to Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Everton probably aren't going to be much better than sixth, and why not move to Arsenal from Southampton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Was hearing on the radio they've told him he'll have 100 mill as a transfer budget if he goes to Everton, wage doubled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Few places reporting Blanc is going to be relieved of his duties at PSG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Everton probably aren't going to be much better than sixth, and why not move to Arsenal from Southampton? If Everton finish 6th next year he'll be lauded, Southampton finish lower he'll have regressed. Proves he's not just a one club story in England too, given he has a chequered history prior to So'ton. From a personal Pov I'd be way more inclined to manage a club like Everton than a non-entity doing well like Southampton. Given he grew up in 80s too, Everton carry a fair bit of weight from then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Was hearing on the radio they've told him he'll have 100 mill as a transfer budget if he goes to Everton, wage doubled. This is where we could have been if we hadn't gambled on not having an infrastructure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Few places reporting Blanc is going to be relieved of his duties at PSG Read earlier they were speaking to Simeone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Think Koeman would be mental to leave Soton for Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 I know the 'big club' debate is much derided but Everton dwarf Southampton by any reasonable measure. There's nowt between clubs like Southampton, Leicester, Stoke, Swansea and us, Everton, Villa for example anymore. We're probably more renowned but that's it these days. That's bollocks really, Nufc, Everton and Villa are in a different league to the other four mentioned. Yes, they've all won something more recently than us (as have over 30 other clubs) and they're in the PL but, I'll bet none of those could have swayed a Rafa to have stayed following relegation and none of those could have produced the love our crowd did against Spurs. There's an awful lot wrong with our club but, we've got it, many fans of other clubs deny it, hate it or try and deride it however, the simple fact is that Nufc has got something about it. In the late 70's we really were teetering on becoming second or third rate and Sunderland were for a few seasons the better looking club. We're almost unique and get slated for it, we get accused of being delusion because of it. If Rafa wins something for us I really hope we are fanatical but gracious and then go on to win some more. I've no doubt that the best supporters of any club are as good as our best supporters but don't tell me that as a club that we should consider ourselves with Stoke, Leicester, Soton or Swansea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 I know the 'big club' debate is much derided but Everton dwarf Southampton by any reasonable measure. There's nowt between clubs like Southampton, Leicester, Stoke, Swansea and us, Everton, Villa for example anymore. We're probably more renowned but that's it these days. That's bollocks really, Nufc, Everton and Villa are in a different league to the other four mentioned. Yes, they've all won something more recently than us (as have over 30 other clubs) and they're in the PL but, I'll bet none of those could have swayed a Rafa to have stayed following relegation and none of those could have produced the love our crowd did against Spurs. There's an awful lot wrong with our club but, we've got it, many fans of other clubs deny it, hate it or try and deride it however, the simple fact is that Nufc has got something about it. In the late 70's we really were teetering on becoming second or third rate and Sunderland were for a few seasons the better looking club. We're almost unique and get slated for it, we get accused of being delusion because of it. If Rafa wins something for us I really hope we are fanatical but gratuitous and then go on to win some more. I've no doubt that the best supporters of any club are as good as our best supporters but don't tell me that as a club that we should consider ourselves with Stoke, Leicester, Soton or Swansea. This can never be said enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Think Koeman would be mental to leave Soton for Everton. it does strike me as a sideways move at best. But he may have got the message that a chunk of the squad might want to move on and its very easy to screw up after selling a load of players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Koeman left a big club reputation wise for Southampton in the first place. And do you think for players like Pelle, Imbula, Andre Ayew, Shaqiri, etc, that there's much of a difference sporting challenge wise these days at their clubs, than Everton, Newcastle, etc? Sky and the TV money have made it practically a level playing field now. You're getting players and managers leaving massive clubs in Europe, joining clubs with no recent history. That's the point I'm making. I can't imagine Koeman being able to do any more with Everton than he has with Southampton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Hope they don't approach Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 That's the point I'm making. I can't imagine Koeman being able to do any more with Everton than he has with Southampton. Unless these new owner push Everton pretty rapidly towards the daft spenders then I tend to agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 That's the point I'm making. I can't imagine Koeman being able to do any more with Everton than he has with Southampton. Unless these new owner push Everton pretty rapidly towards the daft spenders then I tend to agree with this. The question should be would Koeman have left Everton for Soton? I doubt it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Hope they don't approach Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I find it an odd move for Koeman too unless hes been promised a massive war chest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I find it an odd move for Koeman too unless hes been promised a massive war chest. Radio yesterday were saying massive pay rise and £100m for players. I still think it's a sideways move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Southampton have gone as far as they could go imo, they also consistently sell their best players and we learnt that eventually your luck on finding replacements will run out. Everton have a stronger team & were mismanaged by Martinez, they'll do well next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Southampton have gone as far as they could go imo, they also consistently sell their best players and we learnt that eventually your luck on finding replacements will run out. Everton have a stronger team & were mismanaged by Martinez, they'll do well next year. How can you say something like this after last season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontenacity Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Southampton have gone as far as they could go imo, they also consistently sell their best players and we learnt that eventually your luck on finding replacements will run out. Everton have a stronger team & were mismanaged by Martinez, they'll do well next year. Not sure that's right. Yes Southampton had a massive sale a couple of years ago, but in hindsight they would have been mad to turn down any of those offers:£12mn for Chambers, ~£20mn for Lallana, £30mn+ for Shaw, £25mn for Lovren (!). Last summer didn't they resist approaches from Man U for Mane (After they sold Di Maria)? Likewise Wanyama. I'm not sure it's fair to call them a selling club. They also have great facilities, a consistently successful academy (Walcott, Bale, Ox, Shaw, Chambers, Ward-Prowse) and are on the South Coast near London which, rightly or wrongly, many foreign players/managers would probably see as more attractive than the North West. For me it's a sideways step. Of course, as others have said, if he has been offered a crazy transfer budget it might make more sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Aren't Everton almost certain to lose their best striker this summer and there will be vultures circling around stones too. Perhaps Koeman is being brought in to oversee big sales and their replacements as he's done it before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Southampton have gone as far as they could go imo, they also consistently sell their best players and we learnt that eventually your luck on finding replacements will run out. What absolute rubbish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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