TRon Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 6 hours ago, Froggy said: Aye I defended him on here. The rivalry with Leeds originated from the War of the Roses. It's steeped in history. One of the most legitimate rivalries in football. I suggest you read up on that if you have no idea what it's about. I mean we are talking about football here, not the middle ages, this isn't Game of Thrones. Man U seem to have quite a few rivalries don't they? Leeds, Man City, Liverpool. It must get tiring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Leeds and Liverpool are the big rivalries as far as I'm aware with Man Utd. With City less so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, Cf said: Leeds and Liverpool are the big rivalries as far as I'm aware with Man Utd. With City less so. City rivals by default really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 4 hours ago, joeyt said: Who has said Emery is a shit manager ffs Plenty on here, let's just say, 'downplay' his managerial ability. (maybe because he upset HBA's fanboys). The point is, the rave Emery gets on here is far less than Bielsa, even though Emery has proved himself to be a better manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 15 hours ago, Dinho lad said: Kicked on from last season and not free fall? He has a history of relatively short stints having not achieved anything remarkable apart from entertaining football and innovative coaching style. Again, compare him to a 'shit' manager like Unai Emery....? No contest in terms of achievements. It's the clique again mate, don't let them believe you're getting worked up about something that was never said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 In the 1990s and 2000, there was this German manager - Wolfgang Frank - who primarily operated in the Bundesliga second division. He was a big fan of Sacchi. Went and studied Sacchi's football and then spend time at Ajax and studied their total football principles. Bought those back to Germany and installed those principles at Mainz. First person to use video based evaluation of opposition and introduced zonal marking and counterpressing in Germany. Wolfgang Frank was the original German gegenpressing hipster manager. He had success at Mainz but was never able to cross the line - unable to get them promoted. His central defender at Mainz was Klopp. When Klopp was interviewing for the Mainz manager position, he said his goal was to go back to the principles of Wolfgang Frank. By every tangible metric, Wolfgang Frank was a failure at the highest level. Nothing of note in his CV, except losing a German cup final. At the same time, Klopp considers Wolfgang Frank to be one of the most important managers in German football and one of the greatest footballing minds. He states everything he applies in the field was learned from Wolfgang Frank. That Mainz school also generated Tuchel. Low and Ragnick also were inspired by the Frank school of coaching. Mangers like Bielsa, Wolfgang Frank - I wouldn't want them at the current LFC. But that does not mean we shouldn't admire them for what they did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 4 hours ago, The Prophet said: It's the clique again mate, don't let them believe you're getting worked up about something that was never said. Worked up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: Watching him talk absolute shit on SSN now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Never heard of him. Sounds made up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Think Leeds will go down with Norwich and Watford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 6 hours ago, Dinho lad said: Plenty on here, let's just say, 'downplay' his managerial ability. (maybe because he upset HBA's fanboys). The point is, the rave Emery gets on here is far less than Bielsa, even though Emery has proved himself to be a better manager. If he has said anything negative about HBA he deserves to be labeled an ignorant cunt and a shit manager tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Not sure it's the best move for Marsch. He has plenty of hype but obviously didn't work out at Leipzig, just feels like Leeds are going nowhere and an inexperienced manager isn't going to help much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Can't believe they didn't go with "Marsching on together" tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) Who's Jesse Marsch? Edited February 28, 2022 by toon25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, toon25 said: Who's Jesse Marsch? Leeds manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Interested to see how he works out. Been highly touted for years, Rangnick wanted him at Manure as assistant but don't think he has ever really reached the hype. That said I didn't think he would have managed where he has back when he was in the MLS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Hope he’s a bad failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Butcher Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Who is the most underrated and overrated manager in the league? Hasenhuttl for underrated. I'm tempted to go Pep for overrated, even though he's probably the best manager in the league. His team plays great football and he wins domestic titles, but no CL win in over a decade with unlimited resources at both Bayern and City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Who is the most underrated and overrated manager in the league? Hasenhuttl for underrated. I'm tempted to go Pep for overrated, even though he's probably the best manager in the league. His team plays great football and he wins domestic titles, but no CL win in over a decade with unlimited resources at both Bayern and City. Underrated = Eddie Howe. overrated = Lampard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Probably not anymore but always thought Lage was underrated. Likewise Dean Smith and Hassenhuttl. Obvious ones but yeah Lampard is very overrated and, to a lesser degree, Gerard as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Guardiola is overrated in the sense that he is nowadays held up as an example of pure football when really he is an unrepentant drug cheat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 classic James that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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