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6 hours ago, Froggy said:

 

Aye I defended him on here. :lol:

 

The rivalry with Leeds originated from the War of the Roses. It's steeped in history. One of the most legitimate rivalries in football. I suggest you read up on that if you have no idea what it's about. 

 

I mean we are talking about football here, not the middle ages, this isn't Game of Thrones. Man U seem to have quite a few rivalries don't they? Leeds, Man City, Liverpool. It must get tiring.

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4 hours ago, joeyt said:

 

Who has said Emery is a shit manager ffs :lol:

 

Plenty on here, let's just say, 'downplay' his managerial ability. (maybe because he upset HBA's fanboys). :lol:

 

The point is, the rave Emery gets on here is far less than Bielsa, even though Emery has proved himself to be a better manager. 

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15 hours ago, Dinho lad said:

 

Kicked on from last season and not free fall? He has a history of relatively short stints having not achieved anything remarkable apart from entertaining football and innovative coaching style.

 

Again, compare him to a 'shit' manager like Unai Emery....? :lol: No contest in terms of achievements. 

 

It's the clique again mate, don't let them believe you're getting worked up about something that was never said.

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In the 1990s and 2000, there was this German manager - Wolfgang Frank - who primarily operated in the Bundesliga second division. He was a big fan of Sacchi. Went and studied Sacchi's football and then spend time at Ajax and studied their total football principles. Bought those back to Germany and installed those principles at Mainz. First person to use video based evaluation of opposition and introduced zonal marking and counterpressing in Germany. Wolfgang Frank was the original German gegenpressing hipster manager. 

 

He had success at Mainz but was never able to cross the line - unable to get them promoted. His central defender at Mainz was Klopp. When Klopp was interviewing for the Mainz manager position, he said his goal was to go back to the principles of Wolfgang Frank. 

 

By every tangible metric, Wolfgang Frank was a failure at the highest level. Nothing of note in his CV, except losing a German cup final. At the same time, Klopp considers Wolfgang Frank to be one of the most important managers in German football and one of the greatest footballing minds. He states everything he applies in the field was learned from Wolfgang Frank. That Mainz school also generated Tuchel. Low and Ragnick also were inspired by the Frank school of coaching. 

 

Mangers like Bielsa, Wolfgang Frank - I wouldn't want them at the current LFC. But that does not mean we shouldn't admire them for what they did. 

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6 hours ago, Dinho lad said:

 

Plenty on here, let's just say, 'downplay' his managerial ability. (maybe because he upset HBA's fanboys). :lol:

 

The point is, the rave Emery gets on here is far less than Bielsa, even though Emery has proved himself to be a better manager. 

 

If he has said anything negative about HBA he deserves to be labeled an ignorant cunt and a shit manager tbh.

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Who is the most underrated and overrated manager in the league?

 

Hasenhuttl for underrated.

 

I'm tempted to go Pep for overrated, even though he's probably the best manager in the league. His team plays great football and he wins domestic titles, but no CL win in over a decade with unlimited resources at both Bayern and City.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

Who is the most underrated and overrated manager in the league?

 

Hasenhuttl for underrated.

 

I'm tempted to go Pep for overrated, even though he's probably the best manager in the league. His team plays great football and he wins domestic titles, but no CL win in over a decade with unlimited resources at both Bayern and City.

 

 

Underrated = Eddie Howe. 
overrated = Lampard. 

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