The Bonk Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 41 minutes ago, KaKa said: He was at Brugge for 5 mins. Was a goofy move to make mid season with players he would have not known as well, and with no opportunity to have any influence on shaping the squad. I agree his attitude is not good as he is way too impatient that is for sure, and ultimately it will be his undoing as a manager unless he sorts it out. However, purely from watching his teams, I like a good bit of what I have seen. When you say he has done nothing to earn the roles he has been given, what on Earth do you mean? He has the qualifications, and had a pretty high reputation in the game from his playing days. That gets you in the door at a lot of clubs. He started as a coach at Spurs under 19s before joining Fulham as a coach for the first team under Jokanovic and then Ranieri, and he took over as caretaker when both were sacked, before then becoming manager. He then brought them straight back up after they were relegated. He then fell out over signings at Fulham and left, and then joined Bournemouth as manager in the Championship and brought them straight up, before losing his cool and getting ditched again. Why would you say he hasn't earned any of his roles? That's strange man. Fair enough, he's had some exposure and learning there, but it seems like a dramatic climb in a short span of time which has shown evidence in his dealing with off the pitch business. Howe and Potter wouldn't make the PR mistakes Parker has made, but they probably don't have the ego Parker does. As a figure head of those promotions he's gained notoriety, but how much was due to the coaching staffs, players he inherited? I think Brugge were idiotic in thinking Parker actually had the pedigree to push them on in Europe or domestically. I don't blame Parker for having a crack at the redemption arc. I also have a bias against Parker from his time here and thought he was overrated in what he brought on the pitch. For the most part, he was a model pro, played to the best of his ability. Always felt like he was too good for us, but maybe that was the media. In short, I don't like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 35 minutes ago, The Bonk said: Fair enough, he's had some exposure and learning there, but it seems like a dramatic climb in a short span of time which has shown evidence in his dealing with off the pitch business. Howe and Potter wouldn't make the PR mistakes Parker has made, but they probably don't have the ego Parker does. As a figure head of those promotions he's gained notoriety, but how much was due to the coaching staffs, players he inherited? I think Brugge were idiotic in thinking Parker actually had the pedigree to push them on in Europe or domestically. I don't blame Parker for having a crack at the redemption arc. I also have a bias against Parker from his time here and thought he was overrated in what he brought on the pitch. For the most part, he was a model pro, played to the best of his ability. Always felt like he was too good for us, but maybe that was the media. In short, I don't like him. Ah, I see where you're coming from now. That's fair. Yeah, he just gets too worked up over stuff. I remember he started well here but towards the end he was getting some criticism over some of his play and took it to heart way too much and he ended up falling out completely with the fan base and leaving in a strop. It's a recurring theme with him. He just needs to grow up to be honest. He has some talent as a manager, but as you said he is awful off the pitch, when dealing with the guys in the boardroom and that bit is absolutely crucial. Due to his impatience he's already wasted opportunities at two pretty decent clubs who would have supported him with resources eventually, and now both Silva and Gary O'Neill look like they will benefit instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 16 hours ago, KaKa said: Ah, I see where you're coming from now. That's fair. Yeah, he just gets too worked up over stuff. I remember he started well here but towards the end he was getting some criticism over some of his play and took it to heart way too much and he ended up falling out completely with the fan base and leaving in a strop. It's a recurring theme with him. He just needs to grow up to be honest. He has some talent as a manager, but as you said he is awful off the pitch, when dealing with the guys in the boardroom and that bit is absolutely crucial. Due to his impatience he's already wasted opportunities at two pretty decent clubs who would have supported him with resources eventually, and now both Silva and Gary O'Neill look like they will benefit instead. I'm aligned with him having more about him than Gerrard or Lampard, though. If Parker checked his ego and spent some time developing under a heralded manager like Howe did, probably do wonders for his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Vieira sacked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Butcher Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Good move imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 On St Patrick’s day? That is shameful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Who’s decent and available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Who’s decent and available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Who’s decent and available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Wonder if Jesse March is favourite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) Interesting. I thought they'd give it more time than that. It doesn't seem like he was under any external pressure at all either Edited March 17, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, joeyt said: Please please please please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Who’s decent and available? Big Sam Brewcey Woy Appy arry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I wasn't expecting this, maybe because he's such a big name. However, Palace are under-achieving, given the talent in their squad. From what I've seen, team spirit seems to be a bit lacking. If they go down, we should be in for Eze. A really good player who just needs a gentle kick up the arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Not sure how good the Palace squad is mind. Two good CBs, some unproven attackers and nothing in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) Big Sam or Sherwood to push them closer to the PFM full house Wonder if Rafa would be tempted? Edited March 17, 2023 by GeordieDazzler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I feel it's harsh. They had a ridiculously difficult run. After this Arsenal game they have a very winnable run in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Benitez bookies favourite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: Big Sam or Sherwood to push them closer to the PFM full house Wonder if Rafa would be tempted? Rafa would be all over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Rafa would be all over it. Honestly think they are an amazing Rafa team. So much pace and descent defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Eurgh, don’t want Rafa going there. Happy for them to appoint some established loser and for them to fade away back into the championship. You’d have to say they’re just about the most boring side in the league apart from Wolves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I’d say only Rafa is a better option? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I don't think Rafa can be seen as a safe bet any more. He doesn't always get on well with people, and it needs someone to get that team to get quickly. I think they need to be a bit bolder than that. I'm a bit stumped because it needs someone with experience, and I can't think of a good fit. It doesn't look like a job for an up and coming manager from the lower divisions. Gerrard made some mistakes at Villa - principally Coutinho and the fiasco with Mings and the captaincy. I think he will come good as a manager in the end, but this doesn't feel like the right fresh start for him. His stock is very low at the moment. There'll be no shortage of takers, because I think the squad has potential, but the timing is bad and it looks like a good opportunity for someone to ruin their career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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