Ronaldo Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Derogatory, man. Load of nonsense. Was listening live at the time when he said it. Keys and Gray both laughed then realised what he'd said and stopped abruptly. Was fucking hilarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. 2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race Which of these dictionary definitions does that comment fit into? The first. It's clearly a derogatory remark, aimed at a person of a different skin colour. Certainly a superiority element on SJH part. I'm assuming you think it's an okay comment then? dont get that. That he thinks it's okay to make a remark based on a massively exaggerated version of someone's skin colour. It's derogatory, and usually derogatory remarks come from a position of perceived superiority He's basically saying "Les Ferdinand is black". The only way that's "derogatory" is if you (not him) perceive being black as a bad thing. "Les Ferdinand is really black, couldn't see him in front of the cooker" "Peter Crouch is really tall, he came to the door before and I had to open the upstairs window to talk to him" To me there's no difference in intent between those two shit jokes. I agree that I wouldn't tell the former on the radio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Stormfront ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 can't believe it's even being questioned tbh, with dictionary definitions of racism. FFS man, I'm out like It doesn't fit with the legal definitions either. Fortunately that's what counts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 So if I said "Hey, where did that chinese guy go?" after he walked infront of a yellow wall, it wouldn't make me racist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 can't believe it's even being questioned tbh, with dictionary definitions of racism. FFS man, I'm out like It doesn't fit with the legal definitions either. Fortunately that's what counts. Aye, fuck anyone offended by it. Law says it's fine. Now, where's my boot polish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 He didn't just say Les Ferdinand is black though, did he, if he said that he would have said "Les Ferdinand is black." What he actually said was "I couldn't see Les Ferdinand because he was stood next to my black Aga" Les Ferdinand is so fucking black that standing in front of a black surface actually rendered him completely invisible, that's what John Hall said. I'm not saying he's a staunch facist or anything like, but that is most certainly a racist comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 So if I said "Hey, where did that chinese guy go?" after he walked infront of a yellow wall, it wouldn't make me racist? It wouldn't make you racist unless you were racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 How about just not singling out someone's skin colour as a subject of conversation or the butt-end of a joke? We don't do that for 'white' folk, but we constantly hear such jokes about the 'darkies' or people from the orient. Man, I can't believe I'm engaging in this. I'm out too Off to the Pardew thread where there's actually more sanity than here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 It's political correctness gone mad stu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 He didn't just say Les Ferdinand is black though, did he, if he said that he would have said "Les Ferdinand is black." What he actually said was "I couldn't see Les Ferdinand because he was stood next to my black Aga" Les Ferdinand is so fucking black that standing in front of a black surface actually rendered him completely invisible, that's what John Hall said. I'm not saying he's a staunch facist or anything like, but that is most certainly a racist comment. And I didn't have to open my upstairs window to talk to Peter Crouch. I didn't know that jokes had to be factually accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Old guy makes reasonably inappropiate comment, bleh just look the other way awkwardly and move on, it's hardly terry racially abusing another player on the pitch is it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Les isn't even that dark in complexion. The same colour as Remy. People need to stop being so easily offended by everything, though. It is an inappropriate and insulting comment, but not racist. Calling someone a lazy nigger would be racism, this is stupidity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Was sir les asked about this and laughed it off or even hinted something along the lines actually happend. Or did i just imagine that bit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 http://i.imm.io/1hTaw.jpeg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Old guy makes reasonably inappropiate comment, bleh just look the other way awkwardly and move on, it's hardly terry racially abusing another player on the pitch is it Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 The top and bottom of it all is that we should boycoutt the Metrocentre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 He didn't just say Les Ferdinand is black though, did he, if he said that he would have said "Les Ferdinand is black." What he actually said was "I couldn't see Les Ferdinand because he was stood next to my black Aga" Les Ferdinand is so fucking black that standing in front of a black surface actually rendered him completely invisible, that's what John Hall said. I'm not saying he's a staunch facist or anything like, but that is most certainly a racist comment. And I didn't have to open my upstairs window to talk to Peter Crouch. I didn't know that jokes had to be factually accurate. Is Sir John Hall a fucking stand up comedian now like? It was a daft comment that is certainly derogatory, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Pardew out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 http://i.imm.io/1hTaw.jpeg http://www.overgroundonline.com/upload_images/images/skpSDbOI.jpg? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 http://i.imm.io/1hTaw.jpeg http://www.overgroundonline.com/upload_images/images/skpSDbOI.jpg? http://i.imgur.com/zEWqay5.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 How about just not singling out someone's skin colour as a subject of conversation or the butt-end of a joke? We don't do that for 'white' folk, but we constantly hear such jokes about the 'darkies' or people from the orient. Man, I can't believe I'm engaging in this. I'm out too Off to the Pardew thread where there's actually more sanity than here. Other races probably do. Any mentioning of race in a joke doesn't make it a joke with some sort of malicious or derogatory intention behind it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I blame this awful thread on the International break coming up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Old guy makes reasonably inappropiate comment, bleh just look the other way awkwardly and move on, it's hardly terry racially abusing another player on the pitch is it Nobody said it was. The dispute is whether it's a racist comment, which it patently is. Well yeah it is imo, but if that's all we're here to decide then it's a waste of time, is place called is-this-racist?-online all of a sudden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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