Alan '48 points' Pardew

[madras]

if tonight was against norwich and chelsea were in good form you know he'd try impose their play on them much more than adapting to the opposition.

 

That's my point though, he will pick and choose his matches in which he thinks that will be best. At Madrid he pretty much attacked every team but soon as a 'difficult' game came along against top side he changed his style of play and tried to counter more and sit back.

 

Even recent home games he went 4-3-3 against West Brom, didn't really work for them and got lucky, next home game against Southampton, he changes to 4-4-2 and it worked for them. There's nothing set in stone with Jose, he will take each game as they come and look to set up a way in which they can get a positive result. There isn’t a defined style in which you know he’s going to play every game like you know with some managers. And that's not a bad thing, it's just different approach to how many would like to see the game played.

most managers do that, if they don't think thery can impose their style on the oppo they try to combat it. see ferguson playing ronaldo through the middle against barcelona.

[TRon]

I'd absolutely love it if he had changed his outlook, like.

 

He's changed it for sure, he was even talking about controlling the game through possession on Saturday. Even before the Swansea game he fancied our more direct style over their passing game, but I think that was a real wake up call. Before that game the crossover to passing football has been sort of half-hearted. Tbh, even if he's not a natural believer in the passing game like Martinez or Laudrup, just giving the players the go ahead to play more football is half the battle. At least he's not actively making them look shit.

[mrmojorisin75]

I'd absolutely love it if he had changed his outlook, like.

 

He's changed it for sure, he was even talking about controlling the game through possession on Saturday. Even before the Swansea game he fancied our more direct style over their passing game, but I think that was a real wake up call. Before that game the crossover to passing football has been sort of half-hearted. Tbh, even if he's not a natural believer in the passing game like Martinez or Laudrup, just giving the players the go ahead to play more football is half the battle. At least he's not actively making them look shit.

 

we were saying this during the periods of agricultural football if you remember?  lo and fucking behold

[Dave]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-europa-league-pardew-says-2956127

With Newcastle firmly back in the mix for a top seven finish, Pardew has clarified the team's ambitions. He said: "We want to be back in Europe.

 

"But I do think clubs are thinking twice about Europe. If you ask the Swansea chairman or the Spurs chairman about whether it's something that's worked for them, I don't know what their answer would be but I've got a good idea.

 

"The Europa League is a massive problem to Premier League teams, Swansea and Tottenham are both feeling that like we did last season. I don't think the Premier League and Uefa should get together and look at it because the demands on our teams are greater than in other countries.

 

"It's something we're wary of, we'll say that now, but we're chasing a Europe spot and that's what we want to get.

 

"The evidence is there that the Thursday to Sunday is not fair. I think it's different for us than the other European nations."

[Wullie]

Spurs have got 1 more point than this stage last season (although they were actually in that competition last season when they finished 5th, but we don't mention that), Swansea have got 3 less. Hardly a comprehensive result. He's certainly convinced me.

 

We've got 13 more.

[madras]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-europa-league-pardew-says-2956127

With Newcastle firmly back in the mix for a top seven finish, Pardew has clarified the team's ambitions. He said: "We want to be back in Europe.

 

"But I do think clubs are thinking twice about Europe. If you ask the Swansea chairman or the Spurs chairman about whether it's something that's worked for them, I don't know what their answer would be but I've got a good idea.

 

"The Europa League is a massive problem to Premier League teams, Swansea and Tottenham are both feeling that like we did last season. I don't think the Premier League and Uefa should get together and look at it because the demands on our teams are greater than in other countries.

 

"It's something we're wary of, we'll say that now, but we're chasing a Europe spot and that's what we want to get.

 

"The evidence is there that the Thursday to Sunday is not fair. I think it's different for us than the other European nations."

misprint ?

[Interpolic]

How are there more demands than in other countries?  More cup games?  We get knocked out in the early rounds of the cups every year man FFS.

[Wullie]

Even when he's got his results speaking for themselves he can't resist the opportunity to talk bollocks.

[Guest bimpy474]

Well its convinced me that's why he wouldn't dropped Jonas, and why we hoofed it virtually all season, and refused to budge from the 4-2-3-1 that clearly worked wonders.

 

I'm sold. Wanker.

[Dr Venkman]

I'd absolutely love it if he had changed his outlook, like.

 

He's changed it for sure, he was even talking about controlling the game through possession on Saturday. Even before the Swansea game he fancied our more direct style over their passing game, but I think that was a real wake up call. Before that game the crossover to passing football has been sort of half-hearted. Tbh, even if he's not a natural believer in the passing game like Martinez or Laudrup, just giving the players the go ahead to play more football is half the battle. At least he's not actively making them look shit.

 

I hope so mate, I really do. I'm sick of hating his management, I genuinely want to like it.

[Mick]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-europa-league-pardew-says-2956127

With Newcastle firmly back in the mix for a top seven finish, Pardew has clarified the team's ambitions. He said: "We want to be back in Europe.

 

"But I do think clubs are thinking twice about Europe. If you ask the Swansea chairman or the Spurs chairman about whether it's something that's worked for them, I don't know what their answer would be but I've got a good idea.

 

"The Europa League is a massive problem to Premier League teams, Swansea and Tottenham are both feeling that like we did last season. I don't think the Premier League and Uefa should get together and look at it because the demands on our teams are greater than in other countries.

 

"It's something we're wary of, we'll say that now, but we're chasing a Europe spot and that's what we want to get.

 

"The evidence is there that the Thursday to Sunday is not fair. I think it's different for us than the other European nations."

 

He's still making excuses for last season.

[madras]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-europa-league-pardew-says-2956127

With Newcastle firmly back in the mix for a top seven finish, Pardew has clarified the team's ambitions. He said: "We want to be back in Europe.

 

"But I do think clubs are thinking twice about Europe. If you ask the Swansea chairman or the Spurs chairman about whether it's something that's worked for them, I don't know what their answer would be but I've got a good idea.

 

"The Europa League is a massive problem to Premier League teams, Swansea and Tottenham are both feeling that like we did last season. I don't think the Premier League and Uefa should get together and look at it because the demands on our teams are greater than in other countries.

 

"It's something we're wary of, we'll say that now, but we're chasing a Europe spot and that's what we want to get.

 

"The evidence is there that the Thursday to Sunday is not fair. I think it's different for us than the other European nations."

 

He's still making excuses for last season.

while you make excuses for this season 

[Mick]

while you make excuses for this season 

 

 

Whatever.

[Varadi]

I don't think there's any doubt that the extra European games had a big impact on our league form last season, but a big part of that was how poorly he handled it.

 

Hopefully if we do get back in some big lessons have been learned. Although it doesn't look like the one about not whining on about it has been!

[TaylorJ_01]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-europa-league-pardew-says-2956127

With Newcastle firmly back in the mix for a top seven finish, Pardew has clarified the team's ambitions. He said: "We want to be back in Europe.

 

"But I do think clubs are thinking twice about Europe. If you ask the Swansea chairman or the Spurs chairman about whether it's something that's worked for them, I don't know what their answer would be but I've got a good idea.

 

"The Europa League is a massive problem to Premier League teams, Swansea and Tottenham are both feeling that like we did last season. I don't think the Premier League and Uefa should get together and look at it because the demands on our teams are greater than in other countries.

 

"It's something we're wary of, we'll say that now, but we're chasing a Europe spot and that's what we want to get.

 

"The evidence is there that the Thursday to Sunday is not fair. I think it's different for us than the other European nations."

 

 

I've not minded him recently but this is getting ridiculous he's such a clem sometimes.

[Cajun]

I absolutely love European matches, Dynamo Parttimeplummerstsiblsi on ITV4 Thursday nights I genuinely like watching but you can kind of understand why managers/the money men aren't so enthused.

 

As a football club we should be taking every chance to win something as seriously as possible, as businessmen you can see why covering your top players wages for a few months isn't really worth the competition.

 

It is absolutely wrong, in fact it is disgusting but that is the way it is these days

[JH]

"We're trying to get back into Europe...even though Europe is shit"

[madras]

he could mean that we may be able to handle it having learned from it last time and maybe developing a style that we could carry through without having to prepare all week.

[loki679]

I don't think chopping and changing the team as much as we did last season helps either.  Fair enough, maybe rest one or two against the dross if needed but switching out virtually the whole first XI makes it harder to build momentum and cohesion imo.

[buzza]

I think it's clear for all that Pardew has improved significantly this season compared to last:

A more positive outset in games, taking it to the opposition whilst harbouring enough caution not to lose easily

The substitutions have won us games and have made sense instead of infuriating us (see last season)

Not picking the "experienced" or favourites this term but picking the winning "team"

 

With a decent target man or an upgrade on shola and we could actually have a scarily good team...

 

Only downside is Ben-Arfa, but whilst we are winning and are looking so hard to beat you cannot exactly bring him too much to fault (except for us utopia lovers  )

[Cajun]

We look at Europe in completely the wrong way, instead of worrying about players getting tired etc.. we should be thinking about how Sammy, Good, Dummett, Bigi, Ferguson, Campbell etc.. can get some more games against different sorts of opposition. How they can represent the club as first team players. Even give the like of Cisse and Marveaux a chance to get a bit of confidence back.

 

I want us to take the competition seriously but if we are dead set on this being more games than the first team can extend to why not just use it as a platform for the fringe/youth players?

[NG32]

We all acknowledge the EL is poor, and like Cajun says we could use the extra games to blood the youngsters and give games to fringe players who need the minutes on the pitch.

[Skeletor]

Might be a different story with their being Champions League qualification for the winners next year. Suddenly there is a money incentive for the EL clubs.

[colinmk]

Might be a different story with their being Champions League qualification for the winners next year. Suddenly there is a money incentive for the EL clubs.

 

Can't believe they haven't done that from the start, should have been a given.

[Tooj]

We all acknowledge the EL is poor, and like Cajun says we could use the extra games to blood the youngsters and give games to fringe players who need the minutes on the pitch.

 

Didn't he do that last time?