Guest firetotheworks Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 FWIW we should have had a pen and Shelvey should have been sent off. That's what happens when you rely upon the fatal mixture of things that are blatant and Howard Webb, who is terrible every single time he refs our matches. Saying that we also relied upon luck again and funnily enough it didn't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Why did Swansea score just before half time and then come out still trying to play football? Why didn't they batten down the hatches and give us the ball? Time to come up with something new. This is getting rather boring. Is he wrong ? Not at all, but there are posts like that every day on here. It's not funny anymore. Not sure Wullie finds it funny, probably sick to death of seeing it happen. Aye, I know, just fucking sick of reading it every fucking day I've got nowt against Wullie and I understand his frustatration. I think we're all sick of it. I've not reached the fed up with it time just yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 We should definitely should have had a pen, but I disagree on Shelvey being sent off. Would have been ludicrous, the kind of pathetically soft shite we all moan about when it's in another match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 FWIW we should have had a pen and Shelvey should have been sent off. That's what happens when you rely upon the fatal mixture of things that are blatant and Howard Webb, who is terrible every single time he refs our matches. Saying that we also relied upon luck again and funnily enough it didn't work. 2 pens, williams makes no attempt for the ball on the second, plays the man not the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Kneejerk opinion time: Judging Swansea by the handful of games I've seen: Swansea have p*ss poor-to-average players who are simply coached exceptionally well in a style of play that makes them significantly greater than the sum of their parts. They play moderately attacking, penetrative, creative football with surprisingly smart linkup and quick, confident interchanging between the entire team, allowing complex team moves to build. Their points come from being effective as a team. Judging us by the past few years: We have average-to-good players who are coached exceptionally poorly in a style of play that makes us significantly less than the sum of our parts. We play dull, defensive, workman-like football with minimal linkup play and interchanging that is usually limited to two players passing it between themselves a couple of times at most, leading to very basic "team moves" that inevitably results in a hopeful, blind punt into the penalty box. Our points come from those good players capable of regularly putting in excellent performances here and there and a reliance on the opposition being consistently s***/wasteful in the final third. Absolutely spot on there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Tell you what, I've just flicked over to BBC1 and the final few minutes of New Tricks is a lot more energetic than any of our play tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 We were shit and didn't deserve to get anything out of the game. I'm not going to lose any sleep over this match whatsoever - at the end of the day we aren't going down and we aren't qualifying for Europe. What the fuck does it matter whether we finish 17th or 10th? We'll still have the same transfer policy, same manager, same owner, 52,000 screaming Geordies, same skill-less workmanlike players etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Why did Swansea score just before half time and then come out still trying to play football? Why didn't they batten down the hatches and give us the ball? Time to come up with something new. This is getting rather boring. Is he wrong ? Wullie is 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 When exactly did the Shelvey incident occur? I think I'll have to watch it once more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Supposed to be the leagues form team. Nothing of the sort evident today. Shoddy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 When exactly did the Shelvey incident occur? I think I'll have to watch it once more. It was the non-headbutt towards Debuchy, wasn't it? I think that's what everyone is talking about, but I find it baffling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 When exactly did the Shelvey incident occur? I think I'll have to watch it once more. Corner shortly after the second goal. All a load of nothing - just him and Debuchy in each other's faces. It was more of a Scouse lunge than a head-butt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 When exactly did the Shelvey incident occur? I think I'll have to watch it once more. It was the non-headbutt towards Debuchy, wasn't it? I think that's what everyone is talking about, but I find it baffling. Yeah, probably. I didn't think he did much wrong at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 When exactly did the Shelvey incident occur? I think I'll have to watch it once more. Corner shortly after the second goal. All a load of nothing. Just him and Debuchy in each other's faces. It was more a Scouse lunge than a head-butt. Should at least have been a yellow though. If Debuchy was CRonaldo Shelvey would have been off, but I'm glad he didn't go to ground like a soft shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 he was just trying to wind up debuchy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Of all the days for Ben Arfa to be sick and Cisse to pick up an injury. They've both been available for the last 4 games and barely played. Today's game they would have both come on in at some point if they'd been available. I thought Sissoko was probably our best player. Cabaye wasn't good and neither was Tiote. Gouffran didn't really worry them. I didn't think Remy had the best of games either. Apart from the Tottenham game Krul hasn't seemed that assured to me this season. Pretty much a poor game all round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 According to Pardew they dropped Anita between the seats in the team bus, and they couldn't get him out in time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Dem rules, though. The lack of a red card promotes cheating imo. If Debuchy went down there, it was much more likely to be a red. There's no value in honesty when so many people are rewarded for lying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 According to Pardew they dropped Anita between the seats in the team bus, and they couldn't get him out in time. Guy saw no pitch time. ... Honestly, man. What can you say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Dem rules, though. The lack of a red card promotes cheating imo. If Debuchy went down there, it was much more likely to be a red. There's no value in honesty when so many people are rewarded for lying. Agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 It's becoming more and more frustrating each time we have this type of loss. Based on the evidence, you have to expect they're going to come pretty frequently. But every time it happens, it just reinforces the knowledge that they're going to keep coming and coming long as Pardew's here--which is infuriating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Games I've seen live in full: Man City, Everton, Mackems, Swansea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 According to Pardew they dropped Anita between the seats in the team bus, and they couldn't get him out in time. cheered me up a bit that has Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJR99 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Poor for long stretches but the "no strikers and they scored 3 argh its so embarrassing" thing doesn't really wash. First goal: utter howler from Krul. Second goal: miracle of an OG Third goal: howler from Krul. Guy who scored shouldn't be on the pitch. Webb gave us absolutely nothing. We've had similar levels of performance in other games and come away with points. By far my biggest gripe is how they absolutely packed it in after the second goal. Shameful. This is pretty much how I feel. Our execution of the counter game was piss poor however. The chances we did make were squandered but the majority of our possession resulted in the wrong decision being made. Perhaps allowing Swansea so much space/time for their own gameplan was the wrong idea but in all honesty they never scored (nor looked like scoring) from that kind of set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Games I've seen live in full: Man City, Everton, Mackems, Swansea so it's you then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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