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  On 05/01/2025 at 18:58, Pixelphish said:

Only saw bits and pieces of the game while sorting the roast.

 

Assume the return of Rat Bruno and Ugarte, combine with the fact it's LFC was behind their improvement?

 

 

 

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Not far off.

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  On 05/01/2025 at 18:58, Pixelphish said:

Only saw bits and pieces of the game while sorting the roast.

 

Assume the return of Rat Bruno and Ugarte, combine with the fact it's LFC was behind their improvement?

 

 

 

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Trent being distracted by a juicy Real Madrid contract also helped 

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  On 05/01/2025 at 18:55, KaKa said:

 

You completely missed the point.

 

The point is why spend so much on a 4th choice with so many other areas lacking?

 

Froggy was convinced he was coming straight in ahead of Maguire, and I told him he wouldn't.

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Yoro has played 252 minutes of PL football after a bad ankle injury, a bit too early to say where he ranks among their CBs? Throwing in a barely 19 year old CB in a new league to that mess wouldn't make much sense to me in any case as proven by the Zirkzee booing.

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  On 05/01/2025 at 19:10, Pata said:

 

Yoro has played 252 minutes of PL football after a bad ankle injury, a bit too early to say where he ranks among their CBs? Throwing in a barely 19 year old CB in a new league to that mess wouldn't make much sense to me in any case as proven by the Zirkzee booing.

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And so why spend £60 plus million on him!!! It's not hard to understand. 

 

Unless he's a proven guy coming straight into a team that is pretty much set elsewhere it didn't make sense.

 

Now they're all complaining the squad isn't good enough and they need to sell to buy.

 

Well yeah ... no shit.

 

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  On 05/01/2025 at 19:10, Pata said:

Yoro has played 252 minutes of PL football after a bad ankle injury, a bit too early to say where he ranks among their CBs? Throwing in a barely 19 year old CB in a new league to that mess wouldn't make much sense to me in any case as proven by the Zirkzee booing.

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Spot on Pata. He would be a starter already only for the bad injury. 

 

Injured in our first proper pre-season game and out for 4+ months. 

 

You can see Amorim is bedding him in. Only a matter of time. 

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  On 05/01/2025 at 18:58, Pixelphish said:

Only saw bits and pieces of the game while sorting the roast.

 

Assume the return of Rat Bruno and Ugarte, combine with the fact it's LFC was behind their improvement?

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And the first time Amorim has had the team for a full week of training since he got the job. 

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  On 05/01/2025 at 19:14, KaKa said:

 

And so why spend £60 plus million on him!!! It's not hard to understand. 

 

Unless he's a proven guy coming straight into a team that is pretty much set elsewhere it didn't make sense.

 

Now they're all complaining the squad isn't good enough and they need to sell to buy.

 

Well yeah ... no shit.

 

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Singling out the signing of an 18 year old super prospect wanted by Real as the reason they don't have any money to spend is frankly weird and hard to understand.

 

 

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  On 05/01/2025 at 19:15, Froggy said:

 

Spot on Pata. He would be a starter already only for the bad injury. 

 

Injured in our first proper pre-season game and out for 4+ months. 

 

You can see Amorim is bedding him in. Only a matter of time. 

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:laugh:

 

Guys been back for ages.

 

Have you forgotten how you were shitting on Maguire in the summer?

 

You were pretty clear that he had no chance of playing ahead of Yoro.

 

But that's fine. Be interesting to see how this all plays out.

 

Looks like you're going to have to get a number of players in for Amorim now and the finances are tight. 

 

We shall see.

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  On 05/01/2025 at 19:14, KaKa said:

 

And so why spend £60 plus million on him!!! It's not hard to understand. 

 

Unless he's a proven guy coming straight into a team that is pretty much set elsewhere it didn't make sense.

 

Now they're all complaining the squad isn't good enough and they need to sell to buy.

 

Well yeah ... no shit.

 

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You're so weird.

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  On 05/01/2025 at 19:19, Pata said:

 

Singling out the signing of a 18 year old super prospect wanted by Real as the reason they don't have any money to spend is frankly weird and hard to understand.

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Hey, that's your issue my friend.

 

We've seen the results on the pitch with them and their transfer business.

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  On 05/01/2025 at 19:21, KaKa said:

 

Hey, that's your issue my friend.

 

We've seen the results on the pitch with them and their transfer business.

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Obviously their transfer business has been a mess but Yoro is honestly the last guy I would be calling waste of money right now of their recent signings. 

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  On 05/01/2025 at 19:24, Pata said:

 

Obviously their transfer business has been a mess but Yoro is honestly the last guy I would be calling waste of money right now of their recent signings. 

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If you think that move made sense at the time with the state their team is in then good luck to you.

 

Should probably apply for a gig with their recruitment team. You'd fit right in.

 

Hopefully their decision making continues in this vein. It's working out really well for them.

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  On 05/01/2025 at 19:37, KaKa said:

 

If you think that move made sense at the time with the state their team is in then good luck to you.

 

Should probably apply for a gig with their recruitment team. You'd fit right in.

 

Hopefully their decision making continues in this vein. It's working out really well for them.

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I really don't understand your tone here. Your man Zirkzee has been on fire while you keep taking digs at Yoro, makes zero sense. How about the big fee spent on 7 years older De Ligt?

 

Don't let old arguments with Froggy control your life mate.

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They looked much much better today tbh. Having Ugarte and Mainoo in from the start meant they offered a shield which gave them a platform to build on. Fernandes did really well to link things together too, he played really well too tbf. Still fancy us to finish above them by a few points but they'll eventually click into Amorim's system but it may not be pretty until they shift a few out who aren't capable of adapting

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It’s not exactly difficult to see the point Kaka is trying to make here, unless you’re trying to be deliberately obtuse.

 

Yoro, like Hojlund was bought for a fee which should and could’ve bought an established first team player, not someone they hope might be that in a few years. It was double the fee we paid for Botman, who was more proven in the same league.

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  On 05/01/2025 at 19:45, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

It’s not exactly difficult to see the point Kaka is trying to make here, unless you’re trying to be deliberately obtuse.

 

Yoro, like Hojlund was bought for a fee which should and could’ve bought an established first team player, not someone they hope might be that in a few years. It was double the fee we paid for Botman, who was more proven in the same league.

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Like Mason Mount?

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  On 05/01/2025 at 19:45, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

It’s not exactly difficult to see the point Kaka is trying to make here, unless you’re trying to be deliberately obtuse.

 

Yoro, like Hojlund was bought for a fee which should and could’ve bought an established first team player, not someone they hope might be that in a few years. It was double the fee we paid for Botman, who was more proven in the same league.

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It's so basic man.

 

They have to be trolling, and so I'm going to leave them to it.

 

I just hope Man Utd continue with these sorts of moves.

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They are just gambling on potential being realized. Better to pay a bit more than maybe others would have had to early, than waiting 3-4 years and having to pay 2-3x for the same player. I totally get it, but it will of course come at the expense of immediate results and with the risk that the potential might not be realized.

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  On 05/01/2025 at 19:56, Conjo said:

They are just gambling on potential being realized. Better to pay a bit more than maybe others would have had to early, than waiting 3-4 years and having to pay 2-3x for the same player. I totally get it, but it will of course come at the expense of immediate results and with the risk that the potential might not be realized.

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I'd understand that logic if they had and recent history of young players realising their potential at that club. Rooney and Ronaldo was a LONG time ago now man, there is no patience for players to learn on the job there in the last 10 years, they need players who can not only hit the ground running, but can deal with the weight of the shirt.
 

FFS we've seen players wilt when pulling on our shirt when things weren’t going well and I’d argue the pressure at Newcastle is nowhere near that at Man Utd, even if in reality it’s probably been closer than Froggy would like to admit these past 3 years.

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  On 05/01/2025 at 19:56, Conjo said:

They are just gambling on potential being realized. Better to pay a bit more than maybe others would have had to early, than waiting 3-4 years and having to pay 2-3x for the same player. I totally get it, but it will of course come at the expense of immediate results and with the risk that the potential might not be realized.

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Yes, totally get that. But timing is everything.

 

You go with this approach once you have a solid first team in place already.

 

It's all back to front at the minute. Like I said though, hope it continues.

 

They'll just end up in a few months claiming they're all not good enough and throwing them away to chase the latest hype.

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