lovejoy Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) Amorim wants out imo. He seems a decent bloke , but if I was a fan I’d be alarmed at how shit they are. In terms of ‘it’ll get better when he’s had a pre season’, there’s not a lot to support that theory at present. Edited February 17 by lovejoy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristov Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Dokko said: Impossible job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 The Glazers. Antony. Ten Hag. Starting to think the fans are the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 17 minutes ago, TBG said: The Glazers. Antony. Ten Hag. Starting to think the fans are the issue. Have you met Froggy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Agreed re. the fans. Froggy is a traitor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 He'll be back at Sporting by the end of 2025. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 What would alarm me most if I was a Man U fan would be the regular stream of negative messages that he keeps giving out. 'Everything is going wrong' is the latest. How is he going to motivate his players, or indeed himself, if he's publicly wallowing in misery? You might say he's being honest, but they do have a few decent players, and that can't be the way to bring out the best in them. I would also worry that the younger players like Garnacho and Mainoo - good players both - may be suffering the most. I know I go on about him, but Eddie inherited a far worse situation, but right from the start, and in so many ways, he was telling the players how good they were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, Cronky said: What would alarm me most if I was a Man U fan would be the regular stream of negative messages that he keeps giving out. 'Everything is going wrong' is the latest. How is he going to motivate his players, or indeed himself, if he's publicly wallowing in misery? You might say he's being honest, but they do have a few decent players, and that can't be the way to bring out the best in them. I would also worry that the younger players like Garnacho and Mainoo - good players both - may be suffering the most. I know I go on about him, but Eddie inherited a far worse situation, but right from the start, and in so many ways, he was telling the players how good they were. Sir Bobby was the same and he won 8-0 in his first game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 5 minutes ago, Ben said: Sir Bobby was the same and he won 8-0 in his first game Second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 All well and good to keep saying he needs his own window/pre season to implement his system but the pressure is going to be 10fold on him now. He simply HAS TO produce from the get-go next season as this season has become a write off in results alone, even if he hasn't verbalised it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Does look like forcing him to join mid season might have backfired on them. The theory is sound, get him in and see which of the current squad he fancies and make sure they can hit the ground running next season in terms of understanding the new system he's bringing with him. Write this season off as a bedding in period. At some point though surely the shite they've been serving up is going to make the current players wonder if maybe this lad doesn't really know what he's doing. Once the players start to lose faith, it's a long road back. I know there will be a lot of changes to the squad but it'll still be a lot of the same players in there next season. You really don't want a situation where you're giving a massive transfer fund to someone who's on a hiding to nothing. Interesting decisions coming up for them, hopefully they make the wrong one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Aye, cash-strapped King Rat is going to be terrified of giving serious cash to Amorim to bring in players to suit his formation based on what’s been on offer so far. Feel like Amorim could work if backed to the hilt and given a lot of time but I don’t think he’ll get either of those things. I’d predict he needs a huge turn around before the end of the season in order to get the buy in from the board to totally back him. If they back him after it continues like it is then fair play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 there's no guarantee his system will ever even work in the Prem managers here are a lot better than in Portugal, they'll have it sussed within a few months. the fact he is so tactically rigid would be my biggest worry if I was Man U supporting scum. he seems like an alright fella, just massively out of his depth in this league at that team. hope they stick with him and give him billions to spaff on wing backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 17/02/2025 at 04:10, midds said: His big mistake was steadfastly refusing to even contemplate changing his formation he's brought across with him. On the one hand you've got to admire his determination to make the system stick but at what cost? That shower of shit seem totally incapable of making it work, it looks fucking rank the vast majority of the time but he can't/won't change it. It's failing week after week and he's just watching it happen. He's running the risk of getting sacked before the squad clicks into shape and they eventually learn how to play it. He doesn't seem like a bad bloke but it all looks doomed at this point The intractability is amazing. It also kinda necessitates a massive clear out and rebuild, plus a new stadium? They are fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Both Liverpool and West Ham spoke with Amorim and decided against him so that perhaps says a lot about what they saw in him. A little bit like us and Fonseca who was strongly linked pre Howe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 34 minutes ago, Mike said: The intractability is amazing. It also kinda necessitates a massive clear out and rebuild, plus a new stadium? They are fucked. You'll be paying for it once you move over here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, kingxlnc said: Both Liverpool and West Ham spoke with Amorim and decided against him so that perhaps says a lot about what they saw in him. A little bit like us and Fonseca who was strongly linked pre Howe Wouldn't read too much into the West Ham one. According to sources they rejected him as he had never managed abroad and they wanted more experience. Fair enough, but it would be a bit strange as to why they still spoke with him when they knew these things beforehand. Other sources suggest he had a change of heart and apologised to Sporting for meeting with them. I'd say the latter is more likely. It's well documented though that Liverpool went with Slot because Amorim's system would have required a squad overhaul which they didn't need. The difference is that we badly need a squad overhaul and most fans want him to gut the team. Sign young and hungry players (Dorgu), and get rid of the overpaid passengers (Rashford). It's going to take time but I do think he'll be a success if he's backed. If Ratcliffe and co. decide to sack him, it would be a display of gross incompetence, and the only person who comes out of it looking good is Dan Ashworth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Canny headline, mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, Froggy said: You'll be paying for it once you move over here. Gonna come over on a door now, fuck that shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 28 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Canny headline, mind :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) If I got a new gaffer at graft and they paced about the office huffing & puffing with a face like a slapped arse, told everyone else in the industry that we were shit at our jobs, said we were the worst team in the history of the company, they would only implement one new and complicated approach to getting the job done and week after week after week our results were tragic. Then I would definitely want them to get paid millions of billions when they inevitably got sacked. Edited February 18 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Feel like too much is made of the mid-season thing. That's just how it is, no club really has the luxury of waiting when they need a manager. The only interesting element is that he's been so spectacularly bad it's ruined any goodwill for summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 16 hours ago, Froggy said: Sign young and hungry players (Dorgu), and get rid of the overpaid passengers (Rashford). It's going to take time but I do think he'll be a success if he's backed. Signed Ugarte, Hojlund, Zirkzee, Yoro all young, got rid of overpaid passengers in Varane, McTominay, Martial, AWB and the needle hasn’t moved. Do think Man Utd fans get themselves too tied up in thinking ‘Young signings = the way to go’, just because some of their other signings have been average at best. A younger side can just mean the floor drops further, so when it’s not working the results are even worse. Like Doug looks energetic, but quite limited on the ball. Early days, but doesn’t really much difference in their technical play compared to AWB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 They need youngsters like Ibrahimovic, Larsson, Sheringham etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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