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Bumping this thread to throw a few things out after being in the Team of the Season thread. It's a Manchester United thread, so surely I can't catch any shit from posting in here. Didn't want to derail a thread asking opinions on Bruno Fernandes so dug this up. :lol:

 

@aussiemag @54 @nufc123 @Super Duper Branko Strupar @SiLvOR All of you listed Bruno Fernandes as one of the most overrated players this season.

 

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16.8 - Bruno Fernandes assisted the most xG of any player in the PL in 2022-23 (16.8), although his teammates scored only 8 goals from those passes.

 

16.8 - Bruno Fernandes

13.9 - Kevin De Bruyne

12.4 - Kieran Trippier

11.5 - Trent Alexander-Arnold

10.5 - Pascal Groß

 

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This is with large parts of the season with Wout Weghorst as his striker. May I ask what he would need to do to be rated fairly in your eyes? 

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1 minute ago, Froggy said:

Bumping this thread to throw a few things out after being in the Team of the Season thread. It's a Manchester United thread, so surely I can't catch any shit from posting in here. Didn't want to derail a thread asking opinions on Bruno Fernandes so dug this up. :lol:

 

@aussiemag @54 @nufc123 @Super Duper Branko Strupar @SiLvOR All of you listed Bruno Fernandes as one of the most overrated players this season.

 

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16.8 - Bruno Fernandes assisted the most xG of any player in the PL in 2022-23 (16.8), although his teammates scored only 8 goals from those passes.

 

16.8 - Bruno Fernandes

13.9 - Kevin De Bruyne

12.4 - Kieran Trippier

11.5 - Trent Alexander-Arnold

10.5 - Pascal Groß

 

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This is with large parts of the season with Wout Weghorst as his striker. May I ask what he would need to do to be rated fairly in your eyes? 

 

Stop throwing himself to the floor then crying, with the expression of a donkey?

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I made my decision purely on vibes and a biased opinion, without any care in the world for underlying stats, and i'm sticking with it. Sorry @Froggy, Fernandes is completely overrated. 

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It's even more annoying when class players behave like shits and seem like they're having a terrible time on the pitch. You're mint at football, just stop being a dickhead and enjoy it. 

 

Martial is quite similar, although he's more miserable than annoying.

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2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

It's even more annoying when class players behave like shits and seem like they're having a terrible time on the pitch. You're mint at football, just stop being a dickhead and enjoy it. 

 

Martial is quite similar, although he's more miserable than annoying.

 

Don't think i've ever seen Martial smile. It's like he's permanently depressed :lol:

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6 minutes ago, 54 said:

I made my decision purely on vibes and a biased opinion, without any care in the world for underlying stats, and i'm sticking with it. Sorry @Froggy, Fernandes is completely overrated. 

 

:lol: I know that's what all these opinions are based on, I just wanted to hear it from the horses mouth. Fair play to you for being honest.

 

5 minutes ago, OCK said:

When it looks like everyone on the team hates playing with him [emoji38]

 

Can't say I've seen this myself barring one occasion with Sancho this season.

 

3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

It's even more annoying when class players behave like shits and seem like they're having a terrible time on the pitch. You're mint at football, just stop being a dickhead and enjoy it. 

 

Martial is quite similar, although he's more miserable than annoying.

 

Fully agree with this. Extremely frustrating how much of a yap he is. Wish he would stop. :lol: 

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He's a talent, no doubt and comes across as measured and intelligent in the interviews I've seen him give. But once he crosses that white line he becomes an absolutely insufferable, whining, cheating rat. Quite the Jekyll and Hyde.

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15 minutes ago, Froggy said:

Bumping this thread to throw a few things out after being in the Team of the Season thread. It's a Manchester United thread, so surely I can't catch any shit from posting in here. Didn't want to derail a thread asking opinions on Bruno Fernandes so dug this up. :lol:

 

@aussiemag @54 @nufc123 @Super Duper Branko Strupar @SiLvOR All of you listed Bruno Fernandes as one of the most overrated players this season.

 

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16.8 - Bruno Fernandes assisted the most xG of any player in the PL in 2022-23 (16.8), although his teammates scored only 8 goals from those passes.

 

16.8 - Bruno Fernandes

13.9 - Kevin De Bruyne

12.4 - Kieran Trippier

11.5 - Trent Alexander-Arnold

10.5 - Pascal Groß

 

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This is with large parts of the season with Wout Weghorst as his striker. May I ask what he would need to do to be rated fairly in your eyes? 



Not be massively over-rated and utter shite. The whiney little rat faced, bum fluffed chin, powder-puff, cry eyed little scum bag.

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4 minutes ago, SiLvOR said:

I just think he's a massive cunt, @Froggy and I haven't watched nearly enough games of yours to make a level headed judgement. So yeah, that's it :lol:

 

:lol: Appreciate the honesty. 

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Yeah, so he can be a very good player (which he undoubtedly is), one of the key components of a solid Manchester United season (which he undoubtedly is), and yet be a whinging, moaning, diving prick (which he also undoubtedly is). He's rated "just right" in my opinion.

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He's a good player, arguably very good, the only issue I have is when Man-U fans try to claim he's on par or even above KDB

 

In terms of the stats shared I'd argue his numbers are higher as it mostly goes through him, the likes of KDB isn't as high as the chances created is shared around a bit more, same applies to Arsenal players

 

And ultimately he's a massive prick, that will always play a part in how people rate him

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1 hour ago, Froggy said:

Bumping this thread to throw a few things out after being in the Team of the Season thread. It's a Manchester United thread, so surely I can't catch any shit from posting in here. Didn't want to derail a thread asking opinions on Bruno Fernandes so dug this up. :lol:

 

@aussiemag @54 @nufc123 @Super Duper Branko Strupar @SiLvOR All of you listed Bruno Fernandes as one of the most overrated players this season.

 

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16.8 - Bruno Fernandes assisted the most xG of any player in the PL in 2022-23 (16.8), although his teammates scored only 8 goals from those passes.

 

16.8 - Bruno Fernandes

13.9 - Kevin De Bruyne

12.4 - Kieran Trippier

11.5 - Trent Alexander-Arnold

10.5 - Pascal Groß

 

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This is with large parts of the season with Wout Weghorst as his striker. May I ask what he would need to do to be rated fairly in your eyes? 

Hes a good player its not that, and you can give me all that stats x here and x there all day trying to impress me, but when you compare him to other similar players like De Bruyne and Odegaard his numbers in terms of goals/assists is not that great. 

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Just now, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

Eh, surely nobody has ever claimed that?

My two older brothers support Man-U and they very much try to do it

 

And they use shitty stats like those that were shared to try and suggest he'd have better numbers than KDB if he played for City

 

It's doylem logic but here we are

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5 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

Hes a good player its not that, and you can give me all that stats x here and x there all day trying to impress me, but when you compare him to other similar players like De Bruyne and Odegaard his numbers in terms of goals/assists is not that great. 

 

Do you mean this season? He has more assists than Odegaard and more goals than De Bruyne.

 

 

If you're including seasons before only De Bruyne is even close to him. I'm fairly sure that Fernandes has more goal involvements than anyone except Messi in the top five leagues since he came into the league. I just don't think people understand how good his numbers are. It's something like 120 G+A in 200 games. 

 

I think it's a fair argument to say that if Fernandes had Haaland up top as well that he would have significantly more assists. 

 

That isn't me saying Fernandes is better than De Bruyne BTW. 

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1 minute ago, Froggy said:

 

Do you mean this season? He has more assists than Odegaard and more goals than De Bruyne.

In the PL? Odegaard has the same amount in assist but almost double in goals. One goal more than De Bruyne but 10 more assists. None of them take pens.

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