AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Think that's basically the consensus. I don't really know if he's overrated in football terms and I couldn't care less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, SiLvOR said: I just think he's a massive cunt, @Froggy and I haven't watched nearly enough games of yours to make a level headed judgement. So yeah, that's it Appreciate the honesty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 NWOAT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Yeah, so he can be a very good player (which he undoubtedly is), one of the key components of a solid Manchester United season (which he undoubtedly is), and yet be a whinging, moaning, diving prick (which he also undoubtedly is). He's rated "just right" in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 He's a good player, arguably very good, the only issue I have is when Man-U fans try to claim he's on par or even above KDB In terms of the stats shared I'd argue his numbers are higher as it mostly goes through him, the likes of KDB isn't as high as the chances created is shared around a bit more, same applies to Arsenal players And ultimately he's a massive prick, that will always play a part in how people rate him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Antony though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Froggy said: Bumping this thread to throw a few things out after being in the Team of the Season thread. It's a Manchester United thread, so surely I can't catch any shit from posting in here. Didn't want to derail a thread asking opinions on Bruno Fernandes so dug this up. @aussiemag @54 @nufc123 @Super Duper Branko Strupar @SiLvOR All of you listed Bruno Fernandes as one of the most overrated players this season. ----- 16.8 - Bruno Fernandes assisted the most xG of any player in the PL in 2022-23 (16.8), although his teammates scored only 8 goals from those passes. 16.8 - Bruno Fernandes 13.9 - Kevin De Bruyne 12.4 - Kieran Trippier 11.5 - Trent Alexander-Arnold 10.5 - Pascal Groß This is with large parts of the season with Wout Weghorst as his striker. May I ask what he would need to do to be rated fairly in your eyes? Hes a good player its not that, and you can give me all that stats x here and x there all day trying to impress me, but when you compare him to other similar players like De Bruyne and Odegaard his numbers in terms of goals/assists is not that great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: He's a good player, arguably very good, the only issue I have is when Man-U fans try to claim he's on par or even above KDB Eh, surely nobody has ever claimed that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Just now, MrRaspberryJam said: Eh, surely nobody has ever claimed that? My two older brothers support Man-U and they very much try to do it And they use shitty stats like those that were shared to try and suggest he'd have better numbers than KDB if he played for City It's doylem logic but here we are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Eh, surely nobody has ever claimed that? Froggy is trying his best just a page back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Hes a good player its not that, and you can give me all that stats x here and x there all day trying to impress me, but when you compare him to other similar players like De Bruyne and Odegaard his numbers in terms of goals/assists is not that great. Do you mean this season? He has more assists than Odegaard and more goals than De Bruyne. If you're including seasons before only De Bruyne is even close to him. I'm fairly sure that Fernandes has more goal involvements than anyone except Messi in the top five leagues since he came into the league. I just don't think people understand how good his numbers are. It's something like 120 G+A in 200 games. I think it's a fair argument to say that if Fernandes had Haaland up top as well that he would have significantly more assists. That isn't me saying Fernandes is better than De Bruyne BTW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Froggy said: Do you mean this season? He has more assists than Odegaard and more goals than De Bruyne. In the PL? Odegaard has the same amount in assist but almost double in goals. One goal more than De Bruyne but 10 more assists. None of them take pens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Fwiw in terms of minutes Fernandes has played almost 10 games more than KDB Though not like that stat is needed to know they aren't on the same level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Froggy said: I think it's a fair argument to say that if Fernandes had Haaland up top as well that he would have significantly more assists. Hate these. Ifs and ifs. Im sure Maximin would have double figures in assists if Fernandes, De Bruyne, Odegaard and Kane was at the end of his passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 33 minutes ago, Froggy said: I think it's a fair argument to say that if Fernandes had Haaland up top as well that he would have significantly more assists. Might have been an idea to spend some money on a striker rather than spunking 80m on another shitty, non productive winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Fwiw in terms of minutes Fernandes has played almost 10 games more than KDB Though not like that stat is needed to know they aren't on the same level This season yes. Which is fair enough if that's what we're talking about. Since Fernandes joined the league though, more goal involvements than De Bruyne. Per 90 I've no idea, but would imagine it's mighty close. Not sure what the issues were with the stats above were either. They were black and white. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, simonsays said: Might have been an idea to spend some money on a striker rather than spunking 80m on another shitty, non productive winger. Antony does have 15 goal involvements himself this season. I'd give him more a bit more time than one season though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 As much as I hate is on pitch behaviour and histrionics ability alone I think he’d be brilliant for Newcastle United. He’s very good. Hoping this Hungarian is a low maintenance version of him (?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 He's a great player Fernandes - proper bellend though. He is nowhere near the level of player of De Bruyne, who is the best player in the league. No amount of stats will change that imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choppy Chop Chop Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Why on earth do Man U have their own thread? Its not as though they are `owt` special these days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 5 hours ago, Froggy said: Do you mean this season? He has more assists than Odegaard and more goals than De Bruyne. If you're including seasons before only De Bruyne is even close to him. I'm fairly sure that Fernandes has more goal involvements than anyone except Messi in the top five leagues since he came into the league. I just don't think people understand how good his numbers are. It's something like 120 G+A in 200 games. I think it's a fair argument to say that if Fernandes had Haaland up top as well that he would have significantly more assists. That isn't me saying Fernandes is better than De Bruyne BTW. All statistics are made up - 72.3% of the population knows that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Choppy Chop Chop said: Why on earth do Man U have their own thread? Its not as though they are `owt` special these days We have a Tottenham thread and a Sunderland thread. I'm not sure being special has anything to do with thread creation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Why has this thread been resurrected after 9 years, just because a Man Utd fan can't stand for his team being out of the limelight? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I think he put something in here to avoid turning another thread into a Man Utd. debate. I don't really see the big deal - I'd be fine if we had a thread for a bunch of clubs, especially the ones that have supporters on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Just now, timeEd32 said: I think he put something in here to avoid turning another thread into a Man Utd. debate. I don't really see the big deal - I'd be fine if we had a thread for a bunch of clubs, especially the ones that have supporters on here. Hasn't stopped him in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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