Incognito Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 He has ended up a bench player his whole career. Eh? According to Soccerbase, of his 278 appearances, only 90 of them were as a sub. At a club like Chelsea, which has had the pick of any midfielder they've wanted, including the league's all-time top scoring midfielder, I wouldn't say he's been a bench player at all. 278 appearances in 10 years. This is not someone who is relied upon in the first team. You're taking injuries, suspensions and squad rotation out of the debate then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 He has ended up a bench player his whole career. Eh? According to Soccerbase, of his 278 appearances, only 90 of them were as a sub. At a club like Chelsea, which has had the pick of any midfielder they've wanted, including the league's all-time top scoring midfielder, I wouldn't say he's been a bench player at all. 278 appearances in 10 years. This is not someone who is relied upon in the first team. You're taking injuries, suspensions and squad rotation out of the debate then. Man ... we all watch premier league football. We all know Obi Mikel has not been an important player for Chelsea. I don't need to calculate injuries, suspensions and rotations man. Please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Is anyone arguing that Mikel was that important of a player for Chelsea? You certainly wouldn't put him on the importance scales of Drogba, Lampard, Terry etc but you also can't say that he's had an 'utter rubbish' career Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Is anyone arguing that Mikel was that important of a player for Chelsea? You certainly wouldn't put him on the importance scales of Drogba, Lampard, Terry etc but you also can't say that he's had an 'utter rubbish' career Precisely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 He has ended up a bench player his whole career. Eh? According to Soccerbase, of his 278 appearances, only 90 of them were as a sub. At a club like Chelsea, which has had the pick of any midfielder they've wanted, including the league's all-time top scoring midfielder, I wouldn't say he's been a bench player at all. 278 appearances in 10 years. This is not someone who is relied upon in the first team. I may not be the greatest at maths, but that's nearly 28 appearances a season. Wiki has his appearances at 374 including all cups as well, that's nearly 40 matches a season, man. Of course he was a player that was relied upon. By comparison, most important and permanently fit Frank Lampard played an average of 46 matches a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Fuck me, there have been pages of this now . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Players you forgot existed vol. 2560 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Delighted we never signed him, never been a fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 f*** me, there have been pages of this now . we will not let things lie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 What Bamford needs is another loan deal before deciding if he's good enough to be signed permanently... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Do West Ham make their transfer offers through Sky Sports Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 West Ham's £3m bid for Snodgrass rejected They're pathetic. Realise Snodgrass is out of contract in the summer but there is no way Hull are selling for anywhere near as low as that amount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Do West Ham make their transfer offers through Sky Sports was thinking the same. It all seems very public, makes me suspicious re their motives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 West Ham's £3m bid for Snodgrass rejected They're pathetic. Realise Snodgrass is out of contract in the summer but there is no way Hull are selling for anywhere near as low as that amount. Contracted until 2018, which makes the offer even more laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Isaiah Brown has gone on loan to Huddersfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 West Ham's £3m bid for Snodgrass rejected They're pathetic. Realise Snodgrass is out of contract in the summer but there is no way Hull are selling for anywhere near as low as that amount. fairly obvious its just trying to unsettle the player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Looks like Badstuber is going to Man City on loan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Is he even fit to play? i quite like him but he's never actually healthy sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Went straight to Google after that post. Can confirm that Mikel's wife is not only attractive, but sexually attractive Baba's original comment is POTY. holy shit - of all things I was expecting him to list off - that was not it. And thanks to him, I now have even more respect for Mikel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Baba has such a majestic way of wording his posts man Mind, I think Mikel has been a bang average player for Chelsea and is a bang average player, despite trophies won! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Baba has such a majestic way of wording his posts man Mind, I think Mikel has been a bang average player for Chelsea and is a bang average player, despite trophies won! This is what is so sad about the whole thing, for me anyway. Him being seen as a this average DM. Coming off that youth tournament at the age of 18, I would have loved to see him at least given a chance at being developed into a more well rounded midfielder. He did not get that opportunity at Chelsea at all in my opinion. Instead he got shoehorned into DM as Makelele was the oldest, and first on the way out in Chelsea's midfield three. Baba seems certain that his form as a more forward thinking midfielder in that tournament was simply due to a greater physical advantage, and he was destined to be the player he is now. I can't accept that though. Difference of opinion on that matter, which is fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 What Bamford needs is another loan deal before deciding if he's good enough to be signed permanently... A Loan, With Everybody Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Sky Italia saying Chelsea are signing Llorente from Swansea and Batshuayi going to Swansea on loan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Sky Italia saying Chelsea are signing Llorente from Swansea and Batshuayi going to Swansea on loan Odd one that, Swansea getting the better player surely? Suppose it gives Batshuayi a load of playing time but wouldn't fancy relying on Llorente if Costa got injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 What Bamford needs is another loan deal before deciding if he's good enough to be signed permanently... A Loan, With Everybody Did you just want to use that Verve/loan play on words, or is there a link I'm missing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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